--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "matrixmonitor"
> <matrixmonitor@> wrote:
> >
> > I'll have to use the Golden rule in posting his [Jerry's]
> > e mail address on any forum; personally, I wouldn't like 
> > it for myself; but OTOH I can't act as some type of 
> > intermediary. He's on his own!  
> > ...in regard to contacting Jerry, that's a 
> > great idea and IF his e mail is on some brochures he's 
> > going to send me on his Institute, then I will consider 
> > that as public information and post the e mail on this 
> > forum...
> 
> Thank you for the updates, mm, and for your 
> discretion with regard to Jerry Jarvis.
> 
> My personal feeling is that if Jerry has remained
> inaccessible for this many years, and silent on
> his reasons for it, that's the way he wants things.
> And thus that's the way I'd want things to remain
> for him.
> 
> I can't imagine anything more annoying than being
> pestered by people who want to know the "real" 
> story of his story. I can only imagine that he 
> has spent the years since we last saw him exactly
> as many people here have spent them -- trying to
> sort things out in his mind and coming to some
> feeling of equanimity about them. Clearly from what
> you have reported he still has positive feelings
> about some of the things Maharishi is trying to
> accomplish, and that's just fine with me.
> 
> As much as many people might like to hear Jerry's
> "take" on Things TM and want to ask him about it,
> I think we already *have* it. It's called silence. 
> He's kept his for all this time, and I for one think 
> it might be rude to ask him to break it now.

It wouldn't be rude to *ask* him to break it. It
would be rude to *pressure* him to break it if
he indicates he doesn't want to.

Sometimes people who have been silent for a time
about something would actually be happy to talk
about it at some point if they knew it would be
appreciated, or even just because they felt like
it.

Obviously, Jerry didn't keep his silence when 
matrixmonitor called him; indeed, he *asked*
matrixmonitor to call him, so apparently he did
feel like talking, at least to that one person.
As far as we know, he didn't take some kind of
*vow* of silence. People do sometimes change
their minds about things (as Barry keeps telling
us).

It wasn't clear to me from what matrixmonitor
reported that Jerry even knew about FFL, or at
least what kind of forum it was. And when 
matrixmonitor invited him to join us, he seems
to have considered it:

"I recommend that he become a Fairfield Life member so can
access a lot of neat information on the TM Movement. (when
I said the "remnant" of the TM Movement", he burst out
laughing, saying "remnant"?.) Anyway, he asked what the
purpose of membership on this forum would entail and I
simply said more information from a different perspective
than supplied by people like Bevan, he declined, saying he
get's all his information from sources like The Maharishi
Channel .org.; and similar sources."

It's also not clear to me from the above that he
considered it from the perspective of being able
to chat with old-timers, as opposed to obtaining
information for himself. It isn't inconceivable
that if he had, he'd have responded differently.

Some of the chronic TM/MMY/TMO-bashers here,
though, might not be too happy about such a
weighty and knowledgeable pro-TM voice joining us,
so it's not surprising they'd want to discourage
those who were in favor of inviting him.


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