--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk"
> <shempmcgurk@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > > As I recall (perhaps from Mason's book?) it was Charlie who
> told
> > MMY:
> > > > if you go ahead with this flying thing, it will destroy the
TMO.
> > > >
> > > > Which it did.
> > >
> > > The TMO is destroyed only for those who never took it very
> > seriously
> > > anyway.
> >
> >
> > Actually, the TMO was destroyed only for those that DID take it
> > seriously and actually committed to, accepted, and incorporated
the
> > principles of its teachings into their lives and very beings.
>
> If they took it seriously, why do they not see the meaning in the
> things Maharishi does. Real seriousness and practise would have
given
> them intuition. Any little challenge of mind from MMY and off they
go.
>
>
> > It was those that did NOT take is seriously -- such as cultists
> like
> > yourself, Nublus -- who blindly followed MMY and the TMO into
the
> > crevasses and cracks of cultism when the Movement took a
direction
> > that was in direct opposition to those principles.
>
> You are stuck in the early day thinking of the Movement. Things
> change, the world changes. Grow up.
>
> The You didn't speak
> > up. You didn't say to MMY: don't go in this direction,
Maharishi,
> > because it's wrong.
>
> Actually Maharishi told us (Purusha) once to do exactly that. He
said
> something like; And even if I am going astray then you should
remind
> me that you said this, now remember ? ... something like that. For
me
> Maharishi never went astray. He did exactly what a warrior is
> supposed to do; just go forward no matter what others might say.
Then
> new layers were added, and new, new, new to stretch our ability to
> think limitedless. Many could not handle the new challenges and
broke
> away or retreated to their own life. Nothing wrong with that and
> quite understandable. To follow Maharishi is not for the
> fainthearted.
> That you do not happen to like the choices MMY has made does not
mean
> he is wrong. You jumped the ship for something safer, and to dwell
in
> ideas more readily accepted by family and society.
>
> "Many have asked me about Maharishi but I could say nothing
because I
> had never met him. Now that I see him I know that if you stay
aboard
> this ship he will take you safely across the ocean."
> - Muktananda, Seelisberg 1972 (71?)
> >
> > You didn't speak up because you never took the very simple
> > instructions of the TM Program to heart. You didn't speak up
> because
> > you traded your soul in for the false belief that being around
MMY
> > for his darshan would be a ticket to heaven and the teachings be
> > damned.
>
> What utter nonsense.
>
> >
> > You and your lot did a terrible service not only to MMY and the
> > teachings but to the world which was deprived of getting TM.
And
> the
> > world would have gotten TM because before this whole thing was
> fucked
> > up, there was incredible momentum to accomplish exactly what MMY
> set
> > out to do.
>
>
> Bob Brigante has this quote somewhere were Maharishi says that
after
> this date... no more TM initiations are necessary - not one !
> You are just holdning on to old instructions. The Movement belongs
to
> those who move.
>
>
> > But you and your lot insisted upon treating him like a guru...an
> > infallible, pope-like perfect guru who must be kowtowed to and
> whose
> > every whim -- no matter how silly or outrageous -- must be
catered
> > to, without protest or without the valuable feedback in which a
> > manager of what can only be described as a momentus undertaking
> (the
> > World Plan) would necessarily need to accomplish the goal.
> >
> > You traded your soul in for a few bits of silver darshan.
> >
> > So fuck you and your kind, Nablus. You let MMY down. You let
the
> > world down.
>
> Get a checking.
>
Thanks Nablusos1008, I enjoyed these replies of yours. Not sure I'd
show the same restraint.:-)
