Dalai Lama states -
   
  "The continuum of an impure substratum will later cease, not existing in 
Buddhahood, whereas a pure substratum's continuum of similar type will exist 
right through Buddhahood."
   
  Would any of you actually envisage yourself speaking or writing this way? 
Even in a philosophically oriented discussion? This type of Gelugpa-speak is a 
mode of discourse so divorced from human experience that it has ossified into a 
ideologically fixated form of thinking. 
   
  Tsongkhapa, the founder of the Dalai Lama's Gelugpa sect was quite strident 
in his claim that no one can be enlightened unless they hold the position that 
reality (emptiness) is a "non-affirming negation" - in other words a complete 
nullity or absence.  So how do we hold such a point of view? By intellectually 
coming to that conclusion and then maintaining that very conclusion as an idea. 
   
  Think about that for a moment. You can't be enlightened without holding a 
"thought".
   
  For the Dalai Lama it is this thought - "Any thing that is lacks inherent 
existence". 
  For Christians it is the thought - "Jesus is my savior".
   
  Furthermore:
  For Buddhists there is no beginning but there is an end. 
  For Christians there is a beginning but no end.
   
  Amazing what antinomies our minds will construe to maintain a sense of 
meaning.
   
  kenotic bill
  

quantum packet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          What he's saying is 180 degrees opposite to the nihilistic teachings 
of Neo-Advaita.




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