Ron, without responding to each point you write below, please refer to my rather detailed response to Hugosomethingorother in which everything I write applies to you.
Summary? You were obviously off the program. You didn't do TM properly. --- In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I will try to clarify. One Guru at a time- MMY was my Guru, I had no others while in TM. IN > the last months, I met my Guru on line- for those months, I was still practiciing TM, once I > took initiation with the new Guru, then this became the end of my formal TM practice. > > The thing Gurus will recomend is to only have one. If a time comes for some reason where > you are ready to leave that Guru for another, then most Gurus would advise no different > than before, there should only be one Guru at a time > > My Guru had 4 gurus, yet the most recent enlightened disciple only had Swami G and no > other. My Gurus comments are some may have many gurus, some only one. > > While in TM, I went very deep, there were times of only consciousness on it's own. In the > last 5 years, there was this bliss that carriered over in activity, but not just some slight > mundane bliss, really a significant deep bliss going for days at a time > > Now, if this is not correct TM practice, what else do I have to give as a report? I had good > financial success through the years, this can also be attributed to TM. I can write a very > long list of benefits I had- how much time do you have? > > I did yagyas, spending 30k one year once, went on courses, and by the way, I will be in > vlodrop in about 5 days-hahaha. I have even worked for a short time as staff in Vlodrop, > by some crazy happening was sitting in Maharishi's house for an hour, etc. > > As a teacher, I didicated myself to various projects through the years, participated in most > of the major courses- India, Phillippines- had the gandarva music school in my house, > had loads of purusha staying in my house, was a natural law candidate, donated lots of > money to the movement, > > Others have done more and less- I am mentioning these things because who knows what > it is , if anything that may satisfy your inquirey about me doing TM correctly- I got an > idea- ask Rick or Peter what they think? > > But it doesn't matter anyway, you are entitled to your opinion, and I guess the main thing > is not about me anyway, I have no complaints, if you are happy where you are, then go for > it. I am just giving you my opinion that it is possible to have more than one Guru and > possibly excell quickly in the journey, but that the gurus would not recomend haveing > more than one at a time. The when one has their Guru, it is recomended to go for it 100%. > > As you may know, I further recomended that it should be 2 things, a sat Guru, and then > work one to one > > > Tanmay > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > There can be confusion with two Gurus. > > > > > > > > I must conclude, therefore, that at one point in your life you > > accepted unto yourself Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as your guru, correct? > > > > If you did that, Ron, you are aware, aren't you, that you were off > > the program (the TM Program, that is)? Gurus are NOT part of the TM > > Program. > > > > With all due respect to you, you weren't therefore practising the TM > > Program properly (you may have been doing the TM Technique properly, > > but not the TM Program). > > > > This is the recurrent theme I find with dozens of contributors here > > on FFL: disillusionment with MMY because of the way that he conducted > > himself as a guru! Well, he may be a guru and you may have entered > > into that relationship with him but THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH > > TM!!!! That was because of some weakness in yourself that you > > abandoned a path (the TM Program) for one that involved a guru. > > > > So, please, don't mix up your guru relationship with something that > > is totally separate because it confuses readers who then read into > > your dissatisfaction that it is the TM Program at fault when you > > weren't even practising it in the first place. > > > > > > > > > > > So being under the guidance of my Guru, I am > > > willing to do the practices as instructed, and not mix anything, > > which is also an instruction > > > here. Sometimes I find myself with my TM mantra but it was not > > intentional, it just > > > happened- this shows the naturalness of TM meditation. > > > > [snip] > > >
