I cast my opinions- braging has to do with ego, informing doesn't. My Guru said 
ego and 
realization cannot exist at the same time. Ego is defined by my Guru as small 
self- small 
self is identification of one self as body, mind, or conditionings. Christ said 
I and the 
Father are One. He was cruzified by those that perceived him to be bragging, 
and maybe 
provided clarity to the few who were ripe disciples that could benefit from 
such clarity

For whatever reason, i had this concept locked in that the enlightened would 
never say so. 
I think the reality is that there is not a cookie cutter mold of how the 
enlightened are and 
how their behavior is.

Many only have a concept of what an enlightened being is based on what they 
read. When 
the time comes when they are in the presence of an enlightened being that is 
down to 
earth, not performing for the cameras, not surrounded by big crownds or 
practicing for 
when the future crowds will be around, then one will grab their book and be in 
disbelief 
for the books cookie cutter mold definition of the enlightened will never hold 
up to the 
reality of what it is

Some enlightened like Christ and others may state enlightenment is there, some 
may keep 
it quiet, but in either case, what is, IS- stateing it or not doesn't change 
anything.


--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote:
> >
> > Well fellas and any women,
> > 
> > No matter what gets posted anywhere, there is going to be a big 
> range of reactions and 
> > responses. When it comes to certain things like Gurus, there may be 
> a strong reaction. 
> > This is probably why there is a barbed wire fence surrounding 
> Maharishi house with 24 
> > hour security and a German sheppard.
> 
> Perhaps there is a different reason for the fence and the German 
> Sheppard.
> Perhaps it is because we live in a violent and polarized society based 
> on fear, lust, greed and murder...
> If you think it's bad in Fairfield, Iowa, you should try Philadelphia, 
> where I just returned from visting my sister...
> Now there's a city in ruins; the city where this gift of freedom 
> started, is now ready to fall down.
> Drugs and prostitution has taken over large parts of the city.
> The murder rate continues to climb to over 500 per year.
> Billions of dollars are wasted creating chaos and lining the pockets 
> of people that have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
> We here in the United States, are so addicted to our lifestyles of 
> waste and decadence, that it doesn't matter who we invade or who we 
> take advantage of to support our insatiable greed.
> I am not sure it is a good thing to brag about becoming enlightened.
> This is the ultimate arrogance.
> Grace is bestowed by God.
> It is not something to brag about.
> The ego is always involved in bragging and every other thing to make 
> itself different, and stupid.
>



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