--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me why I am bored stiff by Maharishi's 
> > > speeches?  This applies to his writings, as well.
> > > 
> > > And please take me in context: I am a 34-year practioner of the 
> TM 
> > > Program and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.  But I 
> > > cannot for the life of me sit through one of his lectures and 
> not 
> > > have my mind go off in a million directions...OUT OF SHEER 
> BOREDOM.  
> > > I find him uninspiring, repetitive, and, sorry to say, phony.  I 
> use 
> > > this last expression "phony" because every other day some new 
> GREAT, 
> > > BIG THING is being announced by him.  Like the boy who cried 
> wolf, I 
> > > simply cannot buy into any new pronouncement he makes.
> > 
> > 
> > I totally agree with you. I just can't figure out what the hell
> > happened to him - or what is wrong with him. In my view he started
> > acting like that in the early 1970's. My wife can't stand him. 
> Charlie
> > Lutes once told me that he [Maharishi] has "taken a left turn away
> > from God."
> > 
> > [snip]
> >
> If Charlie Lutes said that it is just foolishness-- Had I heard him 
> today my question would have been, "How does one so perfectly 
> attuned with the Divine turn away from his own nature?". 


I don't agree that Maharishi is "so perfectly attuned with the
Divine." I believe that Maharishi is very advanced and has some
spiritual 'powers'. But I don't think he's tuned to the Divine such
that he's immune from doing wrong [adharmic] things. 


> Important to realize that Maharishi always has in his heart to start 
> people meditating,


You could have fooled me. Some of the decisions he's made have
accomplished just the opposite. A clear, gross example was his banning
of initiations in Great Britain.

Some of his decisions about closing TM Centers and some of the bizarre
projects he's promoted and abandoned have left the public in a state
of aversion, to say the least. The King Tony stuff is just nuts in my
view.

Hell, I was a gung ho TM initiator for years, but Maharishi, after a
while lost his credibility for me. I still swear by the Transcendental
Meditation and it's source in the Holy Tradition with Guru Dev as its
present spiritual representative. But I think Maharishi has 'left the
building' when it comes to any connectedness to the real outer world
with regard to 'spreading the teaching'.


> that those listening to him may be listening for 
> the first time, so there is repetition, and a mini intro lecture in 
> most of his talks. I agree with nablus too, that there are often 
> nuggets of gold hidden among the repitition. Maharishi has taught us 
> all a technique that stands on its own and doesn't need the constant 
> favor and inspiration of a teacher. Better to grow bored of him if 
> that is your tendency and find the treasure trove on your own.


It isn't a matter of "boredom" to me. It's a matter of spiritual
legitimacy. I'm appalled at his pitches for money for example - and
the question of what happens to all of it when he gets it.


> Easy 
> enough to do with clear intentions and enough practice; "Practice 
> makes perfect".:-)


Like I said, it isn't about the TM technique, it's about Maharishi.
Advancement on the path doesn't mean you throw your brains out the
window and ignore the weird abberations in people's behavior, even in
Maharishi.





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