In a message dated 9/4/07 7:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do your  own research. These are clear and known statments. You can 
find them. I  will supply you with only one, you can do your own 
research you lazy slob.  Asking me to do your own legwork !

""10 And his disciples asked him,  saying, Why then say the scribes 
that Elias must first come? 
11 And  Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first 
come, and  restore all things. 
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and  they knew him 
not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise  shall 
also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood  
that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."" Matthew 10-13

Stick  that in yer pipe and smoke it !

<Before Abraham was, I Am is  reference to who He Is, I Am. If you 
knew 
> the whole story here,  you would also know that the crowd at the 
temple wanted 
> to stone  him for blaspheme when he said that, clearly no reference 
to 
>  reincarnation. <Being born again, Jesus said that which is born 
of the  flesh is 
> flesh but that which is born of spirit is spirit. Master  Nicodemus 
was certainly 
> perplexed by the statement "you must be  born again" obviously no 
concept of 
> reincarnation, he never asked  if he must physically die and take 
another body 
> because he asked  Jesus, can a man enter his mother's womb and be 
born 
> again? Jesus  then explained spiritual initiation to him as being 
born again.  >>

Jesus said I am you, and you are me, and I am the Creator  (logic 
provides that he means "You and I and God are the same"). Then he  
states that he will come again (talking about the so-called second  
coming). Therefore logic provides that we all are re-born and come  
again.

Now, in addition, you have to try to account for the fact  that the 
early chrtstians believed in reincarnation. You will try and  fail.

OffWorld




Yes your Pinkness, I do my own research. And you are wrong again. Jesus  said 
"I am the resurrection and the Life", John 11-25. Resurrection is a Jewish  
teaching, not reincarnation, which has it's origins in the Indus Valley.<  Also 
in the Gospel of John, we have the testimony of John the Baptist. the  Jewish 
leaders sent priests and Temple assistants from Jerusalem to ask John  
whether he claimed to be the Messiah. He flatly denied it."I am not the  
Messiah," 
he said. "Well then, who are you?"they asked. "Are you Elijah?" "No,"  he 
replied. "Are you the prophet?" "No." "Then who are you?Tell us so we can  give 
an 
answer to those that sent us.What do you have to say about yourself?"  John 
replied in the words of Isaiah: "I am a voice shouting in the wilderness,  
Prepare a straight pathway for the Lord's coming!" In Mathew's Gospel which you 
 
tried to quote, Jesus spoke glowingly of the Baptist to his followers. He said  
they had missed Elijah for he had come and gone. This was a comparison not a  
declaration of Elijah reincarnating. Elijah never died thus can not 
reincarnate,  if you believe M's teachings. Jesus was referring to the 
"anointing of 
Elijah",  the same anointing which was bestowed upon Elisiah in double portion, 
a 
sort of  Shakti transfer giving him the same power of prophecy as the master. 
As for your  other "quotes", I think you must be confusing Jesus with John 
Lennon and I am  the Egg Man. When Jesus declared he would come again, this 
again is not a  reference to reincarnation because he will descend from the 
heavens, riding on  the clouds,shining like the sun in his full glory,for all 
to 
see. Your logic  requires non Judaic/Christian beliefs and assumptions. And 
just 
as it is  destined that each person dies only once and after that comes 
judgment, so also  Christ died only once as a sacrifice to take away the sins 
of 
many people.  Hebrews 9-27.



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