jstein wrote:
> Virtually every teaching I've ever encountered about
> enlightenment has said the same thing (usually at
> much greater length): experiencing (not just believing)
> that everything is perfect just as it is does *not*
> mean not wanting to change anything.
>
Don't know exactly where you're getting your information 
about the 'enlightenment tradition'. The notion that 
everything is perfect 'just as it is' isn't mentioned 
by Shakya the Muni, the founder of the enlightenment 
tradition and the first historical yogin in India. 
The idea that life is perfection isn't mentioned by 
Patanjali either - in fact he says that existence is
characterized by imperfection, suffering, on a grand 
scale.

The point is, that if everything is perfect, just as it 
is, then there would be no need for yoga, the goal of 
which is perfection. We are either perfect or we are 
not. If not, then we need a technique, a yoga, a path 
that would leads us out of suffering and into perfection.

Read more:

Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental 
Thread: A Born Optimist     
Subject: Reduced for satiric purposes to a facile formula. 
Author: willytex 
Date: 10/13/2001 
http://tinyurl.com/3csdrb 

> Change is constant and inevitable. 
>
Has it been established that change is constant
and inevitable? I think not. Have you been reading
Ken Wilber again? 

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