---This argument can easily lead to a Neo-Advaitin fallacy since the "ME" is not the sum total of an individual. The "I" that vanishes (or the "Me") is the delusion of misidentification; but not the body itself, nor "a mind", nor the skin, bones, hair;, etc; otherwise there would be no Enlightened Guru left to say anything or appear anywhere. What's left is everything that existed before Enlightenment, minus the false identity that in a delusional state, creates an "I" in a manner analogous to Kubrick's "HAL" computer. But the computer still exists; and likewise, the body/mind still exists. Also, there are other sources of delusions besides the false "I" associated with the body/mind. Generally, any lack of knowledge in a given area (say Economics), can easily lead to various types of delusions, or misguided opinions that miss the target. There are myriads of various delusions available to misguide people. Simply crossing a street, one can be deluded into thinking that no cars are coming in your direction.
In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Namaste Guru G and all > > > G:Having things stripped bare is not an attractive offer. hahahahahah > people want to have *thier* lives but to have them Enhanced. And > Surrender doesn't equate with the idea that *I* can get *Realization* . > > N: Being striped isn't attractive ether all the slobber and bed head. Ha ha ha ha. > A famous Guy once said "those who lose their lives have life more abundantly". He he > > G:The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization. The ME may have > may insights aka realizations, but Realization only takes place when > the ME is no more and has dissolved or imploded into simply Absolute. > > N: Yes, this me is so enlightened you should all buy my ME SO SOUP. $500.99 plus tax no > Guru necessary we have a digital automated one. Soup cores requires you read the work > book The Grate Me and the Guru Within written by Dorkdananda. > > N: The oddest things are observed. One could hardly call this deep Witnessing, but have > been observing ego stuff as it mixes with mind it's like all thoughts are lies and crafted in > a way that no one notices, the UN reality of thought which arises seem to be made up as > one goes along. Ego is just a belief system and when that system is challenging the me > freaks. But there is no me just a bunch of thought patterns that made one think im this or > that. > It has been very different unpleasant, some times crazy seeing the world like this, there is > no descriptions or thoughts that could be accurate at all because they are made up > according to the ego pattern. It all seems to be a big game. And every one seems to count > on that game and getting the bigger better game. So this me is nuts, what's left of it. It's a > challenge to talk or remember things, mantra spontaneous in the middle of the night and > just seeing through the eyes is different. And yes, practice breath surrender and grace. Oh > and more surrender. > > Like to kick the guy's butt who invented the me along with the guy who invented the high > heel. Ha ha ha ha haaa rrrar. > > G:i do not offer enhancements - but rather lopping off heads. hahahahaha > > N: What! No pet a cure? > > Love Nyingje > > Maha Shanti >
