I'm going to use 6.  I have no upgrade paths to worry about as this is a
brand-new project

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Blair McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:

> You could create a form component, which won't involve the DB but will
> allow you to use all the FarCry tags and processes (which is their whole
> purpose actually). But how easy it was to use would depend on what version
> of FarCry you're intending to work with.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Jake Churchill <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> One other thing that I'm thinking about is for each dynamic form that is
>> created I create a "type" object and invoke the scaffolding stuff in COAPI.
>> My worry with this is the number of tables that would be created.  Then if
>> everything is a true farcry "type" I would be able to leverage the CMS which
>> would be a positive thing in my opinion.  Have you encountered anything that
>> would indicate this is a terrible idea?
>>
>> FYI, there will be a limit to the number of forms.  It might be upwards of
>> 300 but there will be a limit.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Blair McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It may be easier to create something of your own. Formtools do depend on
>>> FarCry configuration in some places (e.g. the rich text editor), so they
>>> can't really be used without a FarCry app running. I'm not sure it's worth
>>> having FarCry occupying server resources just for formtools.
>>>
>>> Blair
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Jake Churchill <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, thanks.  One more question.  This is the only thing this current
>>>> project needs farcry for.  Do you think it is worth my time to use farcry
>>>> for it or should I consider building a simpler version of formtools on my
>>>> own?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Blair McKenzie <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The basic input HTML and form validation can be done with edit() and
>>>>> validate() on the formtool component. The surrounding HTML will need to be
>>>>> added manually.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Jake Churchill <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I use formtools to create the forms dynamically like in the
>>>>>> idlForm plugin:  idlForm 
>>>>>> PDF<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&ved=0CBEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.farcrycms.org%2Fdownload%2Fattachments%2F1430%2Ftutorial-form-builder-plugin.pdf&ei=R_qGS8THGcaPtgeckLC0DQ&usg=AFQjCNFjEsey79zXmBuIQ-2-ZcyNgnIBjg&sig2=osCnB4QnmByRVVbwJPaaRA>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically, I want to create forms dynamically and then use formtools
>>>>>> to validate them.  I realize that I'll have to do a lot of the work
>>>>>> manually, but will formtools allow me to do that?  Are there methods that
>>>>>> would help me build the HTML and validate it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not at a place where I can dig into the code right now so I'll do
>>>>>> that, I'm just trying to get a little info before digging into the code 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make sure I don't waste any time if formtools can't really help me like I
>>>>>> want it to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Blair McKenzie <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately the ft:object tag won't help you here, as they're
>>>>>>> basically there to help build on the COAPI types.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you can directly access the formtools at
>>>>>>> application.formtools.xyz.oFactory.edit() and just build up the required
>>>>>>> metadata structs manually. You will still need to add the HTML layout
>>>>>>> structure yourself, e.g. the label's fieldset's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A couple of points:
>>>>>>> - The formtool type and the validation types are added as classes to
>>>>>>> one of those elements (I can't remember which one), which is the most
>>>>>>> complicated that gets.
>>>>>>> - Some formtools (like datetime) do server side processing in
>>>>>>> validate() - mostly where there is more than one input that needs to be
>>>>>>> combined, but also for stuff like file uploads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blair
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Jake Churchill <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm looking for an example of formtools other than the standard
>>>>>>>> object scaffolding COAPI examples that are out there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to build an interface or type that allows users to create
>>>>>>>> their own forms and store their own data.  The simplest way I can 
>>>>>>>> explain it
>>>>>>>> is they will create a new form, then they will create form fields that 
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> get attached to the form.  So, a contact form would be created and 
>>>>>>>> fields
>>>>>>>> might be name, email, phone, comment.  Since I don't know that up 
>>>>>>>> front I
>>>>>>>> can't use the COAPI approach.  It'd be nice if I could but I don't see 
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> way to make that happen.  The closest thing I can find is that idlForm
>>>>>>>> plugin that was created back when Farcry 4 first came out but that 
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> do anything with saving data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help or pointers would be great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jake Churchill
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