Looks like I've found the issue.
in object.cfm there needs to be a DIV wrapper around the error message. 
Other wise the validate script goes to hide the wrapper and finds the 
ctrHolder and hides that.

So line 511 of object.cfm needs to go from this:
 <cfoutput>#variables.formValidationMessage#</cfoutput>
to this
<cfoutput><div>#variables.formValidationMessage#</div></cfoutput>

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