I often use before save to modify fields. Example: I often set the label to a mashup of different data fields.
afterSave() I will often use for contacting third-party API's to get data and then set them to fields. In these cases I protect the fields from formtools by setting bSave() to false so that I can manually save the data myself in afterSave(). Those are just a couple common examples of where I use both methods . -- Jeff Coughlin On Feb 10, 2014, at 22:44, AJ Mercer <ajmer...@gmail.com> wrote: I am using beforeSave() to set defaults based on business rules and afterSave() in, this case, to do something if a business condition is met. I have not created a custom createData()/setData() as there is nothing I wanted to change about the saving of the data, and like I said, I assumed before/after where being called by Farcry Also, if for some reason the set/create fails, I would assume after is not called. On 11 February 2014 11:31, Blair McKenzie <shi...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is it you want to do in beforeSave? At the moment I'm not sure why > beforeSave and createData/setData are separate, or why a developer would > use beforeSave instead of simply overriding createData/setData. I would be > just as sceptical about afterSave, except that up until recently it was the > closest thing FarCry had to a COAPI event. > > Blair > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:26 PM, AJ Mercer <ajmer...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> is version 7 a good time to consider COAPI changes? >> >> I assumed beforeSave() and afterSaved() would be called by >> createData()/setData() >> >> should setData() call createData() - or visa versa? >> >> >> >> On 11 February 2014 10:54, Justin Carter <justin.w.car...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> setData() checks first to see if a record exists, so it's less >>> performant (i.e. at least 2 queries for every "insert"), whereas >>> createData() will just try to do an insert. There may by some try/catches >>> in the mix as well. >>> >>> I haven't looked at the code in detail but they should probably also be >>> consistent in regards to default values, I don't think the resultant data >>> should differ depending on which method you use. >>> >>> I'm not sure if there's an existing ticket related to this, but perhaps >>> you should create one if there isn't. Also if anyone wants to have a go at >>> fixing it I'm happy to receive pull requests - I'm just swamped at the >>> moment! >>> >>> cheers, >>> Justin >>> >>> cheers, >>> Justin >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Carter >>> http://www.madfellas.com/blog >>> http://twitter.com/justincarter >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, AJ Mercer <ajmer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> nope - no difference >>>> >>>> What is the reason for having createData()? >>>> What is the difference from setData()? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 February 2014 10:44, Justin Carter <justin.w.car...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmmm... Perhaps the formtool defaults should be getting applied in >>>>> createData() but aren't? >>>>> >>>>> Does anything different happen when you add default="false"? e.g. >>>>> >>>>> <cfproperty name="bContacted" type="boolean" ftType="boolean" >>>>> default="false" ftDefault="false" required="false" >>>>> ftSeq="210" ftWizardStep="PSL Contact Follow-up" ftFieldset="Update >>>>> Details" ftLabel="Contacted"> >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> Justin >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Justin Carter >>>>> http://www.madfellas.com/blog >>>>> http://twitter.com/justincarter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:40 PM, AJ Mercer <ajmer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmmm, ok. Was assuming my beforeSave() was being called, but I put a >>>>>> cfabort in there and it is not called. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have boolean fields in my custom type, >>>>>> when createData() is used, they are set to empty string. >>>>>> when setData() is used, they are set to the (formtool) default >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <cfproperty name="bContacted" type="boolean" ftType="boolean" >>>>>> ftDefault="false" required="false" >>>>>> ftSeq="210" ftWizardStep="PSL Contact Follow-up" ftFieldset="Update >>>>>> Details" ftLabel="Contacted"> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 February 2014 10:21, Justin Carter >>>>>> <justin.w.car...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, I think the only time Core runs beforeSave() is when a form >>>>>>> (or wizard) is processed, and in createFromUpload() (for file/image >>>>>>> formtools) - it doesn't get run within createData() or setData(). I'm >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> entirely happy with the way that part of the API currently works, but >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> easy enough to call beforeSave() manually before create/setData(). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>> Justin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Justin Carter >>>>>>> http://www.madfellas.com/blog >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/justincarter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM, AJ Mercer <ajmer...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it seems that if createData() is used it does not fire beforeSave() >>>>>>>> where as setData() does, >>>>>>>> but with setData() you need to create an objectID >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this correct? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *AJ Mercer* >>>>>>>> <webonix:net strength="Industrial" /> <http://webonix.net> | >>>>>>>> <webonix:org >>>>>>>> community="Open" /> <http://webonix.org> >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/webonix >>>>>>>> Railo Community >>>>>>>> Manager<http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> 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