Sorry Gary, I didn't make that clear. I don't want to sell multiple
sites and host them all under the same account. I would like to be able
to sell a site without regard for where it's to be hosted. Could be on a
dedicated server where we could do the regular install like I have on my
server, or it could be with any hosting company anywhere in the world.

I think I may be on the right track. I was reading a lot of discussion
of running the farcry_core files from somewhere outside the webroot of
the site. I understand the logic of doing this if you were going to host
multiple sites on the same server, but I don't want to be dependent on
the admin people to make this happen. I've created a CF mapping to my
root as /farcry. My code is all in there like:
(root)
-farcry_core
-farcry_mysite
-fourq
Now I'm waiting for the host to change my domain mapping from the root
to "(root)/farcry_mysite/www" and create another mapping for
mysite.com/admin to point to "(root)/farcry_core/admin". I think I'll be
up and running tomorrow.

Greg

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Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Farcry in a shared-hosting environment?



> As it's my goal to sell sites which would include use of the corefiles

This would then imply that you would only want one set of core files. If
you ended up with 50 sites you would not want a set of the core file
living under each sites root directory.

I think I can see what you are trying to do (and that is have one
account at an ISP and then on-sell multiple FarCry sites from that
account).  I think you will find that the general Terms and Conditions
of most ISP's prohibit this practice.

Also, just a tip.... make sure that your own Terms and Conditions
clearly state that you are not "selling" any of the FarCry core.  You
can sell "services" or "maintenance" or "development" work you do
yourself but not FarCry itself.

> possible to house the core files and the site files together

That is exactly how FarCry currently works now.  The issue you will need
to address in a shared environment is how each site will be maintained
through the FarCry Admin Console (a common single mapping for each web
server).  That is done by ensuring that each site has its own unique
domain name.  This could be just sub-domains of a main one, or
completely separate domains for each.

The apps.cfm file in the core has mappings from domains to
sub-directories where the individual site files are kept.  This needs to
be maintained for each site as it is created.

In most hosting companies that I know of (at least here in Australia) an
extra domain usually means an extra account (although you generally get
a few sub-domains for free).   And, if you are intending to maintain
multiple clients you will find it more "portable" to ensure they have
their own account with an ISP.

Then there is the issue of storage.  Each account will have a limit on
storage.  And, unless it is a costly account, you will only have a small
amount of space that is probably OK for one site, but not 50.  Otherwise
you will either be in breach of your conditions, or you will be charged
excess strorage.

My own policy on doing work like this is to tell the client they will
have to pay for an account at the ISP (but that I will be happy to set
it up for them).  That way, whatever I do on their account will not
impact any of the others.  Of course, as far as the FarCry core files
are concerned, upgrading these is an exception you want to enforce so
you don't have to upgrade 50 sites.

Using individual accounts allows the client to discontinue the use of
your services but retain the site itself, you simply hand over control
of the account to the client or their nominated operator.  And in this
case, you want the ISP to maintain the core files because the client has
the right to continue using his site even if it is not maintained by
you.

Most ISP's have "developer" or "partner" or "reseller" programs to
handle this that also provide you a better rate for on-selling accounts
and allow you to charge the client whatever you wish (so a $50 a month
plan to you may be a retail of $75 and you can charge the client $100 if
you want) or that provide you a pre-defined kickback.

And, having said all that, even if you could create multiple "/farcry"
mappings you would have to get the ISP to do that - and then they are
going to ask questions.


Regards,
Gary Menzel



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