Great, my pleasure.

Here attached is also Zölzer's algorithm. I'll need to double-check and see
if all is correct but it might be a good starting point.

Dario


On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 23:31, Julius Smith <julius.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cool, these are great to have for evaluation, learning, and variety of
> choice, thanks!
>
> - Julius
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 2:24 PM Dario Sanfilippo <
> sanfilippo.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for testing, Julius.
>>
>> I'll see if I can get the limiter in Zölzers book in the next few days
>> and I'll do another PR with that if I manage.
>>
>> I've also just added the stereo version of the other limiter:
>> https://github.com/grame-cncm/faustlibraries/pull/37/commits/12763e053c7fb84371cfaa17bf89f2c9a1821418
>> .
>>
>> Dario
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 22:10, Julius Smith <julius.sm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Since the delay for the input path is our "lookahead delay", setting it
>>> to the attack time sounds ideal to me.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:54 PM Julius Smith <julius.sm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been happy with limiter_1176_R4_mono, but I'll now compare it
>>>> to limiter_basic_mono, by offering both with a checkbox to choose, and
>>>> listen for the difference (see attached test program).
>>>> My limiter needs are merely to turn hard-clipping into soft-clipping
>>>> for voice and tonal instruments.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the "limiter slope" is the compression ratio to use above
>>>> threshold (4 in the case of  limiter_1176_R4_mono).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 3:57 AM Dario Sanfilippo <
>>>> sanfilippo.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Julius. I understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> See this:
>>>>> https://github.com/grame-cncm/faustlibraries/pull/37/commits/8f1bd1ba78ff4919637a9bfd9ec635225cfb4ba5
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a basic lookahead limiter based on this post:
>>>>> http://iem.at/~zmoelnig/publications/limiter/.
>>>>>
>>>>> This algorithm is even simpler: it just calculates the amplitude
>>>>> profile using a peak-holder and it smooths out attack and release using,
>>>>> respectively, a one-pole lowpass and a peak envelope. Those filters are
>>>>> based on the e^(-2pi) time constant (Chamberlin's design for 1pole
>>>>> filters). This time constant works in this case as the input delay is set
>>>>> by the attack of the system, so the amplitude profile to calculate the
>>>>> scaling factor roughly reaches its maximum after the attack time. The
>>>>> release time might be changed with some other constant, if more 
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'm satisfied with it but I also designed it for my
>>>>> specific case, that is, stability in self-oscillating systems. I needed a
>>>>> cheap solution with low distortion; I'm not sure if this works well for
>>>>> most applications. People are invited to test and comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a look at Zölzer's limiter, pp 231 and 232, but I don't quite
>>>>> understand what "the slope of the limiter" is. What do you think? He
>>>>> also doesn't mention a specific delay for the input path but I'd assume
>>>>> that it is the same as the attack time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dario
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 01:38, Julius Smith <julius.sm...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dario,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes the current limiter is simply a compressor, using the usual
>>>>>> (causal) amplitude follower, that applies a ratio of 4 starting halfway 
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> (-6 dB). Please feel free to make us a new one that is nicer!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julius
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:19 AM Dario Sanfilippo <
>>>>>> sanfilippo.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello, list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I missing something with co.limiter_1176_R4_mono? I see that
>>>>>>> there is no lookahead mechanism inside and, if I test it with a song at
>>>>>>> +60dB, the output of the limiter is rather consistently at about 25 dB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Dario
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Susskind
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Susskind
>>>
>>
>
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