Please remove me from this list as it seems to be just a bunch of guys
trying to see how far they can piss!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UK FreeCulture Discuss List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: [fc-uk-discuss] Core values and conspiracy...
Have you read this one?
Very interesting... wouldn't it be better to have submissions to a
working group -- rather than tittle-tattle and conspiracy theory (yes, I
know that conspiracy is what the web looks like it was originally
designed for) ;-)
jwales commenting on the earlier discussion here... 20:43
jwales [14:25] <buridan1>i think there is going to be an attempt to
politicize it though 20:43
jwales [14:25] <rejon>yeah, that is what drive wikipedia, open source
projects, etc 20:43
jwales [14:25] <buridan1>or perhaps the word is 'radicalize' 20:43
jwales [14:25] <rejon>yes 20:43
jwales [14:25] <buridan1>and that was what i was arguing against
yesterday 20:43
jwales I agree with all of that.20:43
jwales I mean, I am glad buridan1 was arguing against radicalization of
that kind.20:44
jwales We are going to be radical no matter what. Even if we resist it,
and try to keep out of radical politics as much as possible, our very
existence and project, the free culture project broadly considered, is
very radical.
...
jwales I am just saying that if someone wants to turn the icommons.org
site into a marxist rant (or an anti-marxist rant) or whatever, we should
resist that and stick to our simple core mission
The simple core mission being that simple core mission that no-one wants
defined....
The question is how can anyone seriously, I mean, SERIOUSLY, believe that
a position they take is *not* political. Unless Jimmy Wales is a robot,
but then that would mean that his programmer would have to have also been
a robot... who would have had to have been a robot without values
programmed by a robot... REGRESS..... programmed by a toaster or
something that definitely doesn't have values.. well I suppose a toaster
might have values about bread or crumpets.. but I think we can avoid
those key bread product values in the iCommons working group... ;-)
http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/irc/%23icommons/%23icommons.
2006-07-14.log.html
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