However, I do agree with much of the rest of the article:

Most of these platforms offer a simple trade off, distribution, storage,
membership in a community and an audience in exchange for advertising next
to your content. You provide the reason for coming to the site, they provide
the infrastructure. This situation however mirrors the current exploitation
of artists in many other fields; you get an opportunity at a slice of the
pie but you must provide your work for free or almost nothing just to prove
yourself. It's like being on permanent provisional employment. "We (might)
make you famous, just give us your talent and we'll see."


the exploitative nature of many 'UGC'-businesses, as outlined here, does
trouble me, and I think this needs to be examined, and alternative, 'fairer'
business models proposed. However, (and I'm not massively familiar with the
workings of the Free Software community, so this is a genuine, rather than
rhetorical question), how do businesses based around Free Software differ in
this respect? For instance, how much of the profit generated by companies
such as IBM and Red Hat from Free Software products (both often trumpteded
as massive commercial successes of Free Software) finds it's way back to the
community of developers who made the software?

Cheers,

Tim

On 5/30/07, Tim Cowlishaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 5/30/07, graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I liked this:
>
> http://www.engagemedia.org/Members/andrewl/news/freebeer/


[...snip....] From the article:

Many of the new commercial media sharing sites offer highly restrictive
> terms and conditions on their user contributions. The most dubious is that
> of YouTube who state <http://www.youtube.com/t/terms>
>
> "…by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant
> YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and
> transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works
> of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube
> Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business… in any media formats
> and through any media channels."
>

I still don't quite understand (this conversation has happened before
about the mySpace T+C's) how granting such a licence is incompatible with
the use of a free or liberal licence - surely the point of using a liberal
licence is that these permissions are granted to anyone, whether they be a
google-owned video sharing website, or Joe H. Remixer, making that clause
effectively redundant, as such permissions are already implied by the
underlying licence on the work. I guess it could be a potential problem for
copyleft (youtube could make a (c) derivative work from the licenced work),
but, beyond this, doesn't impact the licence in any notable way.

Cheers,

Tim

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