Hi all,
great thread, by the way. Pls keep it coming.
I'm not an expert, but I have read the spec. 
FIPS does define "cryptography modules". FIPS does not require encrypted drives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIPS_140
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/fips/fips140-2/fips1402.pdf
so, I did not read anything that says that the "cryptography module" _must_ be 
a disk drive
and I did not read anything that says the cryptography module _cannot_ be a 
laptop.


I guess what I'm attempting to sort out ...
it appears FIPS compliance for laptops can be attained with O/S level 
encryption, today. (am I wrong?)
so are we attempting to solve a problem of FIPS compliance for _all_ laptops
or are we attempting to improve performance for _some_ FIPS compliant laptops?


cheers
Hubbert






----- Original Message ----
From: Scott S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [FDE] Fujistu announces 2,5 inch SATA HDD with FDE

This might be possible for desktop computers where space is not a 
constraint. However, in laptops (which are the computers that are most 
vulnerable to theft and lost) where form factors are so specific and 
compact, it would be problemmatic, especially to make it generic enough 
to fit all brands.

There is also the manufacturing aspect of it. Integration of components 
brings down the overall cost of production. Once components are separated 
out, it will be another product line with its own margins and price points.

Scott

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Simson Garfinkel wrote:

> Would it not be possible to certify an encryption module that fits
> between the hard drive and the host computer? This would allow you to
> use off-the-shelf drives while maintaining certification...
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:40 PM, Ali, Saqib wrote:
>
>> This is precisly the issue with obtaining FIPS certification for
>> hard drives.
>>
>> Hard Drive design and development moves at a extremely rapid pace.
>> Time to market and innovation is key in the disk drive business.
>> Manufacturers like Hitachi, Fujitsu and Seagate have to release newer
>> hardware every month to keep ahead of the competition. Whereas
>> obtaining FIPs certification is a slow and time consuming process. By
>> the time these manufacturers obtain FIPS for a certain hardware, that
>> hardware is already few generations old.
>>
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