Heya

>From what i can make of my notes (on intoxication), after Majewski the
specific/basic intent distinction arose as regards whether or not
intoxication could be a defence.

Basic intent offences (which require only recklessness as mens rea) as
a concept can be subdivided into those committed when accused has had
drink/dangerous drugs and when he/she has had other substances (ie
medication etc). A further subdivision can be made with this second
occurance i.e. 1. those defendants who had knowledge of the effect of
the medication and 2. those who did not have knowledge of the effects.
If the defendant can be shown to have known the consequences they are
running a risk and therefore have no defence.

Hanly states there is an apparent conflict between Quick and Bailey in
that Quick decided that the issue of self -induced automatism should
be decided objectively, ie persons using drink or dangerous drugs
should know their effects, while Bailey decided that the issue should
be decided subjectively. ie automatism only fails if the defendant
actually foresaw the effect of his actions. however, if Quick is
limited to situations where automatism is induced by drink or
dangerous drugs, as suggested by Bailey then the conflict is
resolved.

Self induced automatism will be a defence if the defendant was unaware
of the consequences of the action or omission that led to the
automatism. (from Hanly's book).

Phew, its v tough to get head around. I need to read all that myself
again....

Hope I haven't made it even more confusing...





On Sep 27, 6:13 pm, lionel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi folks! i'm having difficulty with distinction between specific/
> basic intent and cases of quick and bailey.  the chapter in nutshells
> seems to be muddled betwen the 2 or is it just me!! which case is
> authority for what?  thnx
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