> I thought everyone had left Griffith for Independent Colleges?
> Certainly all the good lecturers are gone
>
> my thoughts exactly! and Griffith are still claiming prizewinners from
> years ago... very cynical when the lecturers who taught those students
> have left

I'm coming back into the FE1 "thing" after a year in the wilderness
working in a NGO and masters...not looking forward to it, enrolled in
Griffith this time around.

Now my point:  I just can't believe this prize-winner stuff!  I have
either worked with or had class with 3 prize winners and going to a
particular college didn't get them anything!  They were first class
honours degree graduates!  They went to Griffith because they were
just that studying type...I would put money on it that one girl in
particular, finishing top 5 in class, getting 1st in LL.M etc didn't
win a prize because one the "good lecturers" (which I think refers to
P. Burke, V. Corbett, S. Dowling) taught her.

Other thing is, I suppose (like most law graduates) I'd think I'd have
a decent sense of the "whos who" in legal academia etc, and when you
contrast the independent lecturers (all save Stephen Dowling, who is
well known in practice) with Griffith, the latter seems incomparable.
The only other one (aside from Dowling by reason of his book) I knew
in Independent from reputation was Mark O'Riordan as he has a book on
landlord and tenant legislation that was on a reading list on my LLM.
This is on the verge of sounding really snotty, but you don't see
papers in the DULJ / Jurist etc from those in Independent etc.

I've been piecing all this "independent / griffith" stuff together
from different places, but it seems like the "all the lecturers" left
was old news last year....and they were replaced and (at least on
legal academic rep standards) the replacements are, on paper,
better.   I can put it this way...I went to Griffith when P. Burke was
in charge (as far as I know, I just really went to classes and did
homework).  In that session (summer 07) I got absolutely no homework
back, got nothing by way of help from the office.  And I'm coming
across all these posts about how "griffith fell apart since someone
left and took all the lecturers"??????  I just don't see it....

A colleague who went in Summer 08 for the last exams told me it had
changed, and since I failed 4 in summer 07 (I took 8), I had a credit
in GCD, and went back on the basis of the discount.  All fine as far
as I can see.  Just like Laurs says...getting stuff back within the
week...etc...don't need to bother going into class when its raining,
lectures are put online on the same night etc.

Anyway...I haven't gone to Independent...but like a true legal nerd,
I'm sticking up for the Griffith lecturers because I think it is
bordering on ignorant to simply say none of them are "the good
lecturers"....

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