Hello Mark,
I can see lots of places that we can use the kind of structure that we
have set up in the Fedora Create wiki to foster more collaboration
between the groups, even across the whole repository community more
generally. Many of the areas that we have defined initially cover
software that isn't really specific to Fedora, but that the community
is concentrating around. An obvious example would be workflow stuff,
but there are lots more.
The diagram that you refer to actually needs some work even from the
Fedora viewpoint. It was created early in our discussions, before we
were thinking of the core repository team as a special case of a group
within the larger Fedora Create community, and doesn't reflect that
orientation. Perhaps there is a way forward here in thinking of the
"DuraSpace Create" developers community more generally, with areas for
Fedora- or DSpace-specific stuff.
To be honest, I am really focused on getting a useful way of
organizing the Fedora developers community to build on the momentum
that has developed so far. The fact that Fedora is a foundation for
many applications, but not a complete solution for any one of them,
has resulted in a more amorphous community than has evolved around
DSpace. I don't want to do anything to complicate that process, but I
think that with some thought we can organize this so that we serve the
full community better.
I have copied Val on this message, so let me talk to her and we will
think about a way to get a start on some discussion around this idea.
I think that it is definitely something to move on soon.
Thorny
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Thornton Staples
Director of Community Strategy and Alliances
Director of the Fedora Project
DuraSpace, Inc.
[email protected] (202) 684-6952
skype: thorny.staples www.duraspace.org
On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Mark Diggory wrote:
Thorny,
I think this is a great endeavor, I hope we can start to find
synergies between this new space and the DSpace community. I
certainly hope we can combine our efforts on the wiki and
communication fronts so that it can foster greater collaboration
between the groups. I know we on the DSpace side are always looking
for better tools for managing the community. I for one think that
settling on one wiki, Confluence, can be an opportunity to bring the
communities much closer together. Chris setup a space for us
sometime back and I did some initial experiments with porting
mediawiki to confluence that seemed promising (but need more
resources to get completed)...
I will add that it would be great to see us start to place the
DSpace community into some of this work you doing. For instance,
The following diagram would be well served to include a top level
trunk/branch with the DSpace community within it.
http://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/FEDORACREATE/Structure+of+Duraspace
Perhaps a forum that bridges the two groups can help us start to
work together more. One of the key aspects of DSpace is the constant
Asynchronous nature of its collaboration. Will a large community
around the world, everyone making a fixed meeting time is not always
possible. To foster collaboration, its important to find avenues
that discussion avenues are not restricted temporally/geographically.
Recently in our own IRC meetings, we decided that the idea of
subject meetings once a month would be very valuable. I think
having some of these meetings be aligned with the fedora teams
subject meetings such that both groups would be present in the
topics (DSpace 2.0 / Fedora GSoC project, JCR Connectors, DSpace
1.x / Fedora, Solr, etc) would be a great initial starting point.
Cheers,
Mark
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:07 AM, thornton staples <[email protected]
> wrote:
In the continuing effort to move the Fedora project from being the
funded development project were it started, to a completely
community-based effort, I invite you to visit the new "Software"
page on the Fedora Commons web site (http://www.fedora-commons.org/software
).
Chris Wilper, Matt Zumwalt and I developed this new way of looking
at the Fedora Create community as a whole effort, including both the
Fedora Repository Service, and all of the software that everyone is
developing on top of it, in one complete view. Please think of it as
a starting point, a suggestion for how to proceed. From the software
page down, everything is in the Fedora wiki. We want to take a
pragmatic view of all of this, the structure we have organized can
change as appropriate. We will follow the "wiki gardening" approach,
that encourages everyone to add the information that they think is
important, not worrying too much about the formalities. Wiki
gardeners will come back and re-organize the wiki, weeding and
transplanting as necessary and desirable.
The view of the Fedora Create community is presented by sorting the
software development into categories to try to make it more
manageable. These categories can be tweaked and changed, or added to
as necessary. In general, each category includes a registry where
everyone can list software that they have developed that they would
like to share, as well as areas where we can discuss hot topics,
share information about standards, list good ideas for new software,
etc. I strongly encourage everyone to tell us about the software
that you have developed, are developing or would like to see
developed, in each category. Please use the registry to list
software projects that are underway, as well as those that are
created; it is very useful to all of us to know what people are
working on, as well as what is available now.
The core Fedora Repository Service must be treated as a special case
in this view of the software and the developers community. It is the
foundation for everything that we are doing. We have a committers
group that will be the keepers of the core. I am very pleased to be
able to say that Chris has rapidly developed this group to be more
community-oriented already. We have 11 committers now, 8 of them are
not DuraSpace employees. The next release of Fedora, 3.3, is being
managed by Kai Strnad (thanks to FIZ Karlsrhue for giving his time!)
and is planned to come out by the end of the year.
It would be really good to begin to consolidate our wiki around this
evolving model. We have begun to move stuff from the developers
forum area already. The area for ideas and discussion around the
repository service is still being developed, but the rest of the
Fedora Create area is ready to go. I have moved and updated much of
the content model stuff already, and Dan Davis is working on getting
all of the info related to workflow issues moved. If any of you has
information that you have been building on the wiki, especially
recently, I encourage you to find a place on the new pages for it.
If you don't see a good place for it right now, let me know.
Lastly, if any of you out there are particularly good at, and/or
interested in, helping keep up the wiki more generally, both in
weeding and transplanting, as well as in guiding the on-going
process to develop better organization, please talk to me. I think
that we could all benefit from an organized wiki-gardeners group!
Thorny
____________________________________
Thornton Staples
Director of Community Strategy and Alliances
Director of the Fedora Project
DuraSpace, Inc.
[email protected] (202) 684-6952
skype: thorny.staples www.duraspace.org
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