Hi.

After looking at the code again I agree with you. It seems like it would
work to just remove the synchronized keyword, though I'm not sure how to
test that it actually works as expected.

I can give it a try with my test data which I used to locate the
bottleneck in the first place, but It is a lot of objects that all
contains different PIDs. Of course, if you are interested I'll try it
out.

-Jesper



On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:58 -0500, Chris Wilper wrote:
> I find pull requests pretty convenient to work with as opposed to
> patch files. Thanks for taking a look. I'm not sure right off how to
> reduce contention here, but I know it must be possible.
> 
> Hmm. Looking at the code again, I wonder if the getWriteLock and
> releaseWriteLock methods are already sufficient. I see that
> getIngestWriter already calls getWriteLock(pid) near the end.
> 
> If getWriteLock succeeds, the lock will be held until the
> ingest/modify operation is complete (see
> org.fcrepo.server.management.DefaultManagement#finishModification,
> which is invoked by all API-M methods when they're done).
> 
> On the other hand, if getWriteLock fails, another thread must already
> be holding the lock. The behavior here is to just fast-fail subsequent
> requests to ingest/modify the same object, rather than blocking them.
> In reality multiple threads ingesting/modifying the same object should
> be a pretty rare thing, so failing them right away seems reasonable.
> 
> So, long story short, I'm starting to wonder whether just removing the
> synchronized keyword is the right move here.
> 
> - Chris
> 
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Jesper Damkjaer <j...@dbc.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Chris.
> >
> > Actually I just tried to ingest about 20.000 objects in 10 parallel
> > threads, thereby noticing that the number of threads did not seem to
> > improve the performance. I then started visualVM and noticed that the
> > threads seemed to be hanging for a while - and with a threaddump I could
> > see that the threads waited at the synchronization at getIngestWriter.
> >
> > I did not try to just remove it, since I was unsure whether I had
> > completely understood the behaviour - And I had actually missed the
> > point about more objects containing the same PID.
> >
> > I will try to look into whether it is possible to improve the method to
> > not synchronize on all ingests, but only on when new PIDs are generated
> > and if more than one thread are containing the same PID. Are there
> > anything else I should look out for?
> >
> > How do You prefer to get patches to examine? Should I just make a fork
> > of the code at github, try to make some changes and ask You for a
> > pull-request?
> >
> > -Jesper
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 17:03 -0500, Chris Wilper wrote:
> >> Hi Jesper,
> >>
> >> I'm curious how you found out about bottlenecking at this point in the
> >> code. A synchronized keyword could certainly raise a red flag if you
> >> were just following the code path, but I'm really wondering if you did
> >> any tests that led to this as a hot spot. Did you try removing it?
> >>
> >> Yes, this was originally made synchronized in order to try to prevent
> >> multiple objects from being ingested at once with the same PID. It
> >> took a little digging to find this:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/fcrepo/fcrepo-before33/commit/d76078b51d903e18d1725aa37f5e4060f2e7c3c0
> >>
> >> Anyway, it does seem too aggressive a lock, and I think it'd be great
> >> if we could improve things here. The real requirement is that it
> >> shouldn't be possible to ingest an object with the same PID from
> >> multiple threads simultaneously. But keep in mind that not all PIDs
> >> come from PID generation -- they can be provided in the FOXML to be
> >> ingested. So just synchronizing on pid generation is not enough.
> >>
> >> Your ideas on how to reduce contention here are most welcome. This is
> >> one of the older bits of the Fedora codebase, and fresh eyes would be
> >> good. The theme of the upcoming 3.6 release is performance and
> >> scalability (without major architectural changes), and I think this
> >> would fit right in.
> >>
> >> - Chris
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jesper Damkjaer <j...@dbc.dk> wrote:
> >> > Hi.
> >> >
> >> > I have tried to ingest a number of documents in parallel, but they seem
> >> > to congest in getIngestWriter in DefaultDOManager.
> >> > When looking at the source code I can see that this method is
> >> > synchronized, but I fail to understand why.
> >> > As far as I can tell ( I admit I have not read through the source for
> >> > all the classes used in the code ) the only place where the
> >> > synchronization is needed is when a new PID is generated. But looking at
> >> > BasicPIDGenerator it seems like the interesting methods are already
> >> > synchronized here.
> >> > Since I would like to speed up the ingest, could You please point me in
> >> > which direction to look in order to remove the synchronization on
> >> > getIngestWriter?
> >> > If You can help me understand which parts to fix I will look into
> >> > develop a patch.
> >> >
> >> > -Jesper
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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