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Summary: condensed Nimbus fonts inaccessible to applications https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436505 ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-03-07 14:08 EST ------- Nicolas and I have argued on the fontconfig list about this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2008-March/date.html so I don't expect to convince him, but here are my responses. > 1. the problem is not in the font file but application-side But until all the applications are fixed, why not fix the font? > 2. we don't do it for the distro default fonts, why should we do it for > Nimbus? The urw fonts are installed in the 'default' sub-directory of /usr/share/fonts. ghostscript depends on them. > 3. those applications hit the very same problem for many other fonts. A single fontconfig alias is not going to solve it, alaiasing all the fonts that trigger the problem is unrealistic Until the applications are fixed, no font should be distributed that can't be accessed by all applications. > 4. grouping different faces under a single family name is an explicit > objective of modern font formats and pushed as best practice by heavyweights like the Microsoft Typography group, so this patch is backwards and tries to stop the tide I'm not trying to stop the tide. But pretending the tide has already come in is unrealistic. I see you as King Kanute exhorting the tide to come in when it is a mile away. > 5. GTK already proves supporting this kind of face without hacks can be done Good for them. What applications can take advantage of this? I've looked for the "gtk2 font selector" you've claimed has been fixed and can't find it. Of course it can be done and I support this kind of fix. LaTeX2e has had this kind of flexibility for years. > 6. OO.o is getting fixed right now Good. How does that help a web author? > 7. bugs are opened @QT & @KDE to get them fixed too Good. Perhaps konqueror will allow access to the condensed fonts. Why does that preclude making the fonts accessible to all browsers? > 8. applying it now will only create confusion between users with aliased fonts and users of previous releases Finally being able to access fonts previously inaccessible will create confusion? Should bugs not be fixed because that will only create confusion? > 9. and anyway this kind of change belongs upstream And where is "upstream" for the urw-fonts? I wasn't aware there was a fedora-fonts mail list. Bob T. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. _______________________________________________ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
