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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=368561 Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Comment #20 from Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-11-10 06:09:42 EDT --- (In reply to comment #19) > > That's a naïve western view. An awful lot of "letters" in unicode and > > opentype > > are not just "letters" but are rendered via various magic of which ligatures > > are a very small part. > > Sorry, I expressed myself badly. I know ligatures and similar constructs are > commonplace in some alphabets (Arabic and most of the Indic scripts, for > example). > > So let me correct myself: > -> Why can't a Latin letter just be a letter? <- Because even latin scripts have exceptions that need magic (you wouldn't believe what the africans do with latin letters). > To me all this ligature stuff for Latin letters looks like a solution looking > for a problem, i.e. "hey, we have all this complex text layout framework for > Arabic and Indic scripts, let's also use it for Latin just to be fancy". > > > http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/tallys.html > > Those are very good examples of the fi ligature gobbling up the dot on the i. Which is ok for non-turkish users ie turkish needs a special locl rule for ligatures in fonts or even some special magic at pango/harfbuzz level. > > This is just a freetype autohinter bug. We can't ask font designers to > > ignore > > the patented bytecode engine and at the same time not support stuff that > > work > > with it. > > They wouldn't have to do anything at all. My proposal is to disable ligatures > for Latin letters systemwide in Pango and Qt 4 Scribe, any ligatures provided > by fonts would just be ignored (as they were in the past, and still are in > e.g. > Qt 3 apps). Experience shows this won't lead to any fix freetype-side and we'll just have to enable ligature support under user pressure in a few months, with the bug still unfixed. (hiding ligature problems was already tried firefox-side with no good result) Sorry but ligatures exist and ignoring them in the hope our bugs will magically go away is not a solution. Please spend your energy getting freetype people to fix their stuff. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
