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gucharmap | general | Ver: 1.4.x ------- Comment #7 from Behdad Esfahbod 2009-01-16 00:58 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #6) > Behdad, IANAL, but this is not an idea. The "idea" part of this is presenting > characters in a chart, which everyone is entitled to. That's what I'm saying indeed. > But copyright protects the presentation part of what Unicode has done. Random > quote from Wikipedia: "Copyright does not cover ideas and information > themselves, only the form or manner in which they are expressed." The expression of the idea is the code generating it or the generated output. Since we are not literally copying any of those, we're good. > So, if we want to print Unicode character charts with 16 rows and a hex digit > on each row and the rest of the character code at top of each column, write > the > character code under each glyph, and gray-out the area for not-yet-encoded > characters, that may be illegal copying. No that's not. We are not using source code or generated output from the consortium. Really, copyright is for something you have created, patent is for ideas. A certain layout is an idea. A piece of source code or a generated output is copyrightable. The idea of generated such a thing is at best patentable. See: http://lowendmac.com/orchard/06/apple-vs-microsoft.html To quote: "...and most of the other ten were not violations of Apple's copyright due to the merger doctrine (the merger doctrine stipulates that ideas cannot be copyrighted). In the case of Apple vs. Microsoft, many of the displays Apple contested were ideas and could not be protected by copyright." What you say is like saying that "application windows are copyright by company X, so doing them in GNOME is making derivative work". Think about wine or any other "free reimplementation" project. Those would have been totally illegal if your reasoning was to be followed. > What I suggest is, if we really want to print character charts (as opposed to > what Nicolas suggested in bug 561908), we should redesign it. Otherwise, our > work could be considered unlicensed derivative work. To produce derivative work, one needs to use an original to begin with. > Still, since GNOME is a member of Unicode, we probably don't want to get on > their nerves. We can ask them officially, if you do not object. I' sure we can work something out. I'm more talking theoretically. > CC-ing Luis, asking for insight and advice. -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162370. _______________________________________________ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
