Tony,

You need to make sure that oyou have ntfs support on your livecd. You will need 
the ntfs-progs and/or ntfs-3g packages installed before you can mount using 
ntfs.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Coco Computers & Consulting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:16 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] local hard disk space?


        Thanks Doug.
        In continuing to experiment with CentOS5.1 Live CD I have been able to 
cross-mount drives from other linux systems on my network, but as yet I have 
not found a way to mount the local hard drive. I tried (as root) to mount it 
via:
        mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1  /local
        because the Graphical Hardware utility recognized my primary local hard 
drive as /dev/hda1 and because the man page for mount says that 'ntfs' is a 
valid specification for filesystem type. My local hard drive is an ntfs 
(Windows XP) filesystem. But when I attempt this mount I get an error message 
saying that 'ntfs' is not a valid filesystem type. Is there any way at all to 
mount the local hard drive? That would make the LiveCD distribution much more 
valuable, I think.
        --thanks,
        --Tony C.


        Coco Computers & Consulting
        http://coconets.homeip.net


        --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Douglas McClendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

          From: Douglas McClendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
          Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] local hard disk space?
          To: [email protected]
          Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:08 PM


Coco Computers & Consulting wrote:> When I boot with Centos 5.1 Live CD, a df 
command shows the root > filesystem / is mounted to /dev/mapper/livecd-rw and 
shows a total of > about 4GB with 50% available. Is this disk space from my 
local hard > drive? How is it carved out? My local hard drive is
 installed with a > Windows XP system. Does LiveCD simply create a 4GB file on 
the local > hard drive for its own use?No, the 4G is basically imaginary.  
Whatever amount it starts out asused, say 2.1G, is actually compressed data on 
the cdrom, i.e. about675MB.  Once booted and files/blocks are written, they are 
written toram (or with liveusb persistence, flash/disk).  The only reason for 
thearbitrary 4G number, as opposed to say, 1000G, is that the formattingdata of 
a larger filesystem would take up a little bit of extra space,even compressed.  
Theoretically if you had a 16GB ram system, you'd be abit unhappy that an 
artificial limitation of 4GB of writable blocks isbeing used, when you have 
more ram than that to burn.  Long ago Isubmitted a patch such that the 
devicemapper device would havea size greater than 4GB, but the filesystem still 
be formatted to 4GB.With that kind of patch, such
 a user of a 16GB filesystem couldresize2fs the filesystem larger post boot, 
and not be limited.  At thetime however, squashfs was not as efficient as it 
currently is withsparse files, and such a larger device would also have 
resulted in moreactual data space taken up on the cdrom (and also 
signifigantlyincreasing the time to author/master the livecd originally).  
Nowhowever squashfs natively handles sparse files, and won't waste anyactual 
space on even a terabyte of zeros.That was probably a longer answer than you 
were looking for.  Executivesummary- the 4G is purely imaginary and means 
nothing.  The fedoralivecd like most livecds, by default, does not touch your 
system disk atall.-dmc> > --thanks,> --Tony C.> > Coco Computers & Consulting> 
http://coconets.homeip.net> > > >
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