On 31/12/2011 18:26, Michael Busby wrote:
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I debated that in my head and since Pug (esp. post visit to the elves
under the ice on Kelewan)/Marcos and to an extent Miranda could do a
whole load of cool funky magic thangs that neither a lesser or greater
path magician could do it kind of implied a third kind Sorcerer.. kind
of like say The Hall of Magic which all three could visit but even the
'most arrogant member of the assembly' as Pug so nicely put could
manage..... but I can see your point.
Elliott
I don't think 'Sorcerer' was/is a third way. i think because Pug isn't
limited to just one path (greater or lesser), like basically every
other magician, makes him a true Sorcerer. Unlimited.
*Michael Busby. *
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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:17:07 +0000
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Subject: Re: Magic questions [SPOILER for Multiple Books]
On 31/12/2011 13:05, Michael Busby wrote:
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Thats a good point. the only thing i can think of is Macros,
Nakor, Amirantha and his brothers were all touched by the Gods.
Miranda was born from Macros, and we know the Emerald Queen envied
Macros and Nakor's abilities and couldn't achieve them. Pug was
the only one on Midkemia to do it as a mortal.
IIRC Macros told Pug and Tomas that he guided Pugs "career" in
order to bring the Greater Path magic to Kelewan. Macros also
mentioned that he was present at the games in Kelewan when Pug
expressed his displeasure at various aspects. Pug while captive in
Kelewan held by the Warlord manages to cast spells that only a
Lesser Path magician can follow. Macros has also told Pug "that is
not like other magicians and doesn't follow the Greater/Lesser
Path" a true sorcerer.. that implies that there are three
varieties of magic available to humans Lesser Path, Greater Path
and Sorcerers.
Pug later learns some eleven magic... making another kind of
magic.. maybe similar to "Druid magic". Throw in demon magic and
that's five different "brands" of magic... without various kinds
of magic in each brand eg: Amirantha's elven colleagues using
Geomancy - one of my more favourite kinds. Open to debate whether
these magic all involve accessing Nakor's "no magic - only stuff"
in some way. The closest way I could think of describing it was
that magic in Midkemia, Kelewan, Hall of The Worlds et al is that
magic is like the internet... There are many ways of accessing the
internet to do things... Like there is different forms of
magic... Browsers - Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Chrome,
Opera... You can use a PC, laptop, netbook, mobile phone, iPad
just like there are devices which produce magic... There are
different jobs involved on the internet like there are different
kinds of magic user/wizards etc.
just my $0.02 worth and I more than welcome debate and contributions
even they are contrary to my own.
Elliott
> One thing I could never understand... if there was no "greater
path"
> magic on Midkemia prior to Pug going to Kelewan, how did people
like
> Macros, Nakor, and Miranda practice their arts? Were they
somehow exempt?
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> CJ
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