On 2/16/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 20:33 -0800, Erick Tryzelaar wrote: > > > By excellent, I meant in comparison to sourceforge :) Either way though, > > google groups also works as a mailing list, so you'd still get your > > buffering. Plus, searching mail via google groups is amazingly fast. > > Except I can't gain access to my gmail account: google sucks > pretty badly with many of their services.
Max: you are the only human being on the planet who's gmail account didn't work. It's not an impediment. We'll make another. > I find most of this stuff pretty lame and non-professional. A searchable news group is hardly unprofessional. What's unprofessional is that googling "lightweight threads", "game scripting languages" or "c10k solutions" returns zero felix results. Nobody who wants to do any of these things sits down and types in "felix language", and even if they did they still might not find us. > But the primary resources of interest are really: > > (a) the Felix website > > (b) the code repository (svn/tarball stuff) > > The website surely needs a lot of work. 'nuf said there :) > > Now, in my opinion, the structure of the current code > base is a serious impediment to cooperation. I disagree, Felix's google-invisibility is a larger impediment, because it keeps away users. I would estimate that a third of the lurkers here learnt about felix BY WORD OF MOUTH. WTF!? Installing and using felix is about as friendly as it's going to get: install ocaml, ./autogen.sh, but if no-one knows it exists nor what it does, they're not going to make the user step, let alone becoming a developer. Every line of flx code you write as a user is a reason to not switch away when you want a feature. As for resistence to the unorthodox build system, that's human: the fewer reasons there are to stick to a habit, the tighter people will cleave to it. However, enamoured users will take the extra step or two, I believe. > OTOH I cringe when I think of 'de-interscripting' the system, > let along somehow 'devolving' the build system. P.S. an interscript/fuse file system that hid the details would be neat. P.P.S. fused is available as a binary for the mac these days, hum - > The fact is, the combination is pretty awesome: we do manage > to generate tools, docs, and run tests on several platforms > with a single code base .. every time I think of destructuring > I realise what would be lost. > > So .. IMHO the problem is NOT the language. OK, Jacques mightn't > like the C++ syntax much .. but he might live with it. Ditto for > others .. IF they could easily get their hands dirty and just fix > things the way they wanted. > > So I'm turning around Erick's love of web for chatting to another > view: a Felix module is a file accessed by a URL. > > No separate docs (but CSS, XSLT, or other stuff are cool tools > to help interpret it!) > > So roughly: Felix code is basically a source code wiki. > That way everyone can just edit code via the web. Could the mailing list rants appear there? And be searchable for folk who aren't sitting at my computer? > Ppl we need something radical! Like the paper clip, > spreadsheet, blog, wiki, etc .. Or a game. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Felix-language mailing list Felix-language@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/felix-language
