On 07/08/2014, at 9:33 PM, srean wrote:
> Many are better. Window NT kernel is quite decent.
>
> I shudder at the thought of developing on Windows though.
So do I, but it is actually more consistent and with a better API than
Unix systems. It's really the lack of a decent shell that makes it hard
to use.
The problem with Windows is the GUI. It is actually a bit saner than
X-Windows, but the technology is poor. X-Windows wins with its
client server model, which supports networking natively.
> It just feels so much more productive on linux, most things can be
> automated, I dont have to reboot if the weather changes (meant security
> update). Package installs are a breeze.
Sure .. if you can get a package that does what you want.
For example, to draw diagrams I have Dia installed (on OSX, not Linux).
It's Python code. It crashes left, right and centre. Its clumsy to use
compared to the Windows program it is modelled on: Visio.
Similarly, many Open Source offerings just don't cut it.
I had some Music editor, and it made a mess of the screen
By comparison, Windows mandates C++ so most applications
are fast and actually work.
> OSX fans swear by their OS.
I am running OSX. It is Linux done right. The GUI is sane and
consistent. But it still has many Unix faults because it IS in fact
Unix (based on BSD Unix).
> I think i could learn to like it if I tried. I am biased towards the lean
> side. In linux I have enough control to keep my environment so, but on a Mac,
> Apple knows best what is good for you. Just the terminal, yeah its very
> pretty and all, but so bloated. Well so are gnome and kde terminals, in fact
> xterm too, but I dont have to use those, I use rxvt. I dont have to go
> through any contortions to install that.
I'm using iTerm. It's pretty good. You can even merge separate terminal windows
into
a single tabbed window now.
But it is still a terminal. Which means it is a heap of shit that doesn't
recognise what keys on the keyboard are for. There's no excuse
for that rubbish these days. Imagine a terminal that doesn't
understand arrow keys or how to delete backwards.
30 years ago I used OS that actually knew what a keyboard is.
Unix still doesn't. you have to use platform specific hackery
to get something like SDL to send you actual key presses.
> I see, but the site does not have any forms right, so those requests are not
> coming from a browser.
Every Felix file and C++ file can be accessed as a form. Just use
http:// .... /file.flx?edit
and you get a CodeMirror form with an edit pane for the file and a SAVE button
that does a POST of your edited text. The server reads the POST. It just doesn't
save the file. It won't until I can find some way to (a) give it permission to
write
files and (b) restrict that ability to people who have logged in with the right
credentials.
Mike Maul's old Wiki code also allowed saving files (as well as writing to an
sqlite3 database).
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