Just for my own info if you con't mind--so FIV cats are really at less risk
from virus than FELV cats?

Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: OT:FIV false positive?

FIV cats can normally be expected to live long lives if well cared for 
(for  example, not outside as strays).

Gloria

At 10:44 AM 3/29/2005, you wrote:
>I have a couple of questions/thoughts on this. First, no mention of anyone 
>vaccinated, no indication of cats' ages, etc.  Also, given the 
>shortcomings of initial testing (virus may be hidden), I would think it 
>would be hard to tell with absolute certainty who had what when!  I was 
>also intrigued by the last statement: "The FIV infection did not adversely 
>affect the cats' life expectancy"  I'm not sure what that means-cats can 
>have virus and have no effect???  I don't know much about FIV so maybe I'm 
>just not understanding something basic.  Finally, do you know what the 
>study's purpose was?  Sometimes, the 'side' results of a study are not 
>fully explored if they don't fall in the realm of the original 
>purpose.  And absolute last, 5 years is a long time in this field.
>
>Chris
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
>Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:11 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: OT:FIV false positive?
>
>I don't know........ but I know 2 vets who mix fiv cats in their own homes 
>with negatives.
>
>tonya
>
>gg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi MC,
>
>Whenever I see something of interest, I use CISTI which allows you full 
>access to the "neverending" research on whatever one wishes. The study 
>that I recall that I ordered a few years ago that confirmed non-aggressive 
>transmission (other than "paw flailing" at their feeding station) was this 
>one. Here's the abstract:
>
>
>: Vet Rec. 2000 Apr 8;146(15):419-24. Related Articles, Links
>
>Long-term impact on a closed household of pet cats of natural infection 
>with feline coronavirus, feline leukaemia virus and feline 
>immunodeficiency virus.
>
>Addie DD, Dennis JM, Toth S, Callanan JJ, Reid S, Jarrett O.
>
>Department of Veterinary Pathology, University of Glasgow Veterinary 
>School, Bearsden.
>
>A closed household of 26 cats in which feline coronavirus (FCoV), feline 
>leukaemia virus (FeLV) and feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV) were 
>endemic was observed for 10 years.
>
>Each cat was seropositive for FCoV on at least one occasion and the 
>infection was maintained by reinfection. After 10 years, three of six 
>surviving cats were still seropositive.
>
>Only one cat, which was also infected with FIV, developed feline 
>infectious peritonitis (FIP). Rising anti-FCoV antibody titres did not 
>indicate that the cat would develop FIP.
>
>The FeLV infection was self-limiting because all seven of the initially 
>viraemic cats died within five years and the remainder were immune.
>
>However, FeLV had the greatest impact on mortality. Nine cats were 
>initially FIV-positive and six more cats became infected during the course 
>of the study, without evidence of having been bitten.
>
>The FIV infection did not adversely affect the cats' life expectancy.
>
>PMID: 10811262 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>Kind regards,
>
>Glenda
>
>Our FeLV/FIV kitties & other stuff:
><http://community.webshots.com/user/sicky_icicle>http://community.webshots.
com/user/sicky_icicle
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: TenHouseCats <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:37 PM
>Subject: Re: OT:FIV false positive?
>
> > hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info showing
> > non-aggressive contact passing the FIV virus--that goes against
> > everything i have read and if there IS such info, it's important that
> > all of us with positives know! (i tend to suspect it's not current
> > info, but since things change so quickly now that they're actually
> > doing research, i'm open....)
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > MC





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