Thanks Chris--I'll look into this ace promezine that you mention. I haven't had luck with Rescue Remedy and Feliway prior to vet vists. Did the vet give it to you without seeing Big Boy first? I'm not sure mine will (which of course defeats the object). Kerry
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral Just a couple of ideas... I have used a small dog crate (all wire) to put food in & get Big Boy used to eating it while I sat next to it. Then I just closed the door & off we went. That's how I trapped him. Problem is once we got to vet--BB just wouldn't come out & that first visit was pretty horrific! Vet game me 'ace promezine'(? On spelling)--that sure did the trick. I could pick him up, etc. What I did was put a sherpa (soft sided carrier) I have on the bed where he likes to sleep & he just sort of curled up in it & went to sleep! I then zipped the front opening & off we went again. Both times I had to do this, vet visit went a whole lot better--and as a bonus, I got to hold him to trim his nails (of course I had forgotten to ask vet to do it). I would think this would also be good to give sub Q. BB knew everything that was going on but just didn't seem to care much--sort of like a nice high? There were no long lasting side effects--he was just sort of real sleepy & staggering around a little for a few hours but was absolutely fine later on at night... I'm not into all sorts of meds but I have to say that this really reduced poor BB's stress level. He won't take pill pockets so I put this very small pill in some soft treats I know he really likes. Also, can use cheese, ham, anything you can make into a small little ball they can sort of swallow in one gulp... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral Hi everyone Do any of you wonderful people have any ideas on the best carrier for a feral? Here's what's needed: 1. They need to be able to enter it in the normal way to eat every day so they get used to going in. 2. I need to be able to close it quickly while they're in (remote control would be the answer!) if I have to take them to the vet (or the vet is coming to them). 3. If they need a sub-Q, I need to do that while they're IN the carrier--that would mean holding them down from the top, while I give the sub Q. So it needs to open easily at the top--ie it's not going to work if the top is fiddly to remove, because they'll escape while I'm removing it. 4. Other things I haven't thought of?! Thanks for any brand/model suggestions!--Kerry This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.