We've been having this same discussion on another group. Evidently the information is true and is a direct quote from Ingrid Newkirk. I was given several sites to look at, but they did all come from pit bull rescue sites. I haven't had time to verify anything on a peta site. It was very upsetting to me because I've always supported (financially) peta. And, according to the information peta has actively testified in favor of breed specific legislation in addition to what was stated in the article you mentioned.
We went on to discuss further though that groups like peta basically want to abolish people using animals in any form, including pets. And it's really interesting, because this issue has come up on 3 different lists I'm on this week in different arenas. Regarding the peta situation I think their opinion is that cats and dogs are worse off for having been 'domesticated' by humans. I said I wondered what percentage of cats and dogs around the world are even 'adequately' cared for, much less those abused, eaten, tested on, etc.... But then again, are there any 'wild' animals that aren't harmed by humans in some form or another. I really can't think of any species that gets to live it's life in peace without interference much anymore. Maybe earthworms?
Then it came up on this list again with the differing viewpoints on the cats in Tennessee. Jenn talking about going in to rescue them, with the idea that the rescue, even if it means pts is urgent, and Tad stating maybe they should wait, maybe the cats would rather be left alone than pts, or at least not to rush the issue. (I don't want to misquote either one of you!!!!) But that's how I saw what you were saying, and I can see both sides. I wouldn't want to be the one that decides what's "best" for those cats when it's obvious they cannot all be saved if the lady is shut down. (which she obviously will and should be) And....... IF they saved every single cat from that sanctuary, let's say 80. That means that 80 other area cats will be pts. What is the best decision? I don't know. Maybe the best decision would be for humans to never have taken on animals as pets?? Maybe the best decision, but obviously never would have
and never will happen.
Last, (all these forums are ones someone from this list has invited me to) the best friends forum has been discussing finding lost animals. They have a pet detective kind of guy there this week talking about trying to find lost pets. Someone spoke about the problem they have had in the past where a shelter dog comes in neglected, not vetted, neutered, etc..... Gets adopted, trained, etc.... and then the former owner recognizes and wants that animal back. Or when we find a straggly animal and say the owner must not have cared for the animal or they wouldn't have let it outside, etc.... I say that all the time. lol. I will hardly ever give one back I find, because I NEVER think the owner is GOOD enough. And maybe they're not as good as me. lol! But....he was saying he thought we were looking for a 'perfect' world and that we should give them back if there was someone that wanted them. The pet overpopulation problem is bad
enough. If someone wants them, we may not think they are 'good enough' to have them, but was that really our place to decide? (I know we think it is. lol) He was talking about coming from a law enforcement background. I'll have to forward it to the list. He said as an officer he often had to deal with stupid, lazy, uncaring people, who never should have had children, etc.... but had to treat them with respect.
We all know it's pretty rare that children are taken from their parents no matter how bad the situation is, but we expect better for pets. He said it better than I did. I'll forward it!
It's all very interesting to think about. I think I may be off my high horse a bit with people. It's easy to say I would never pts my pet because of lack of money, or whatever, but realistically, most people don't have the money we spend on our animals. (Although a lot of people have a LOT more money than I do and I end up spending what little money I have to save their animals.....)
I guess it is what it is, and I wonder if things will ever change.........
tonya
Rachel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rachel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't want to drive the list crazy on the pit topic again, but I thought this was rather interesting and was curious about PETA's stand on this (which is mentioned in the article).First off, I recognize this is an opinion article, but the author claims to be part of PETA. I am not a PETA supporter, so I don't know if she is actually in any way associated with PETA.I was wondering if anyone could corroborate or dispute these statements, in particular to PETA's stand/opinion on this matter ...many thanks ...
Rachel"Folk will know how large your soul is by the way you treat a dog" C. Doran
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