you're right, nina, NEVER underestimate the power of guilt....
whatever works, i say--too often, tho, the decision has been made
before they even contact us, and nothing we say will make any
difference: the folks who are just using rescuers as a place to dump
their unwanted ones will NOT hear. you can usually tell pretty early
on which people are interested in listening--and sometimes, decisions
ARE reversed. i no longer put any energy into the folks who clearly
don't want alternatives--the answers to the first few questions will
generally give a clear idea of whether they're trying to problem solve
or just abdicate responsibility. in the latter case, if i can take
their cat, i do; if not, i just tell them i'm sorry--if they ask for
other referrals, if i know there is space in other groups in the area
i tell them so....

as for your neighbor, i'm glad she's keeping the dog--and don't forget
that none of us are born being good pet parents: and we are nowhere
near as amenable to training as dogs, for example, are.... when people
come to chats with really "stupid" questions, i always hark back to my
early years as a catmom--talk about ignorant! personally, i am willing
to help anyone who is willing to listen and learn--and it's
communities like this list, and our wider ones, where the best
learning occurs.....

On 10/6/05, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kerry,
> I hear you on the sadness and frustration.  (I love MC's magnet, I want
> one!).  I usually start out all sympathetic sounding about these jerks
> plight.  Oh, how terrible that you have to lose a family member this
> way!  What happened that circumstances have come to this?!  I get them
> talking about their cats/dogs, I ask them about their 'babies'
> personalities and talk about what kind of home would be a good match for
> them.  I ask them about relatives or people that care about the human in
> question, get them thinking about how much easier it will be on the
> cat/dog, if they can have some contact with the person they've spent
> their life with.  I ask them about the day that the animal came to live
> with them, what were they like when they were kittens, etc.  If I can
> get them crying, all the better!  While I'm talking with them, I urge
> them to consider what a terrible thing this is for their animal friend,
> how they won't understand what is happening to them, how the person will
> never know if they are safe, or happy, or dead.   I don't know, I'm
> pretty burnt out on trying to educate unfeeling people, but sometimes
> waking them up to the fact that these animals are not property, should
> be treated with dignity and respect, even hitting the guilt button about
> how they are letting them down, (in oh-so-subtle ways) can help them
> reconsider their plans.  After all, once this is done, it can't be
> undone and it's something that they will have to live with for the rest
> of their lives.  I have a neighbor behind me that while not an 'animal
> person', has shown herself to be compassionate and caring in other
> ways.  Her daughter is going through an ugly divorce, (this girl is not
> a brain surgeon), and she 'dumped' the family dog on her mother.  She
> was keeping the dog in her mom's backyard while she moved into a condo
> that "doesn't take dogs".  Arrgghh!  I clenched my teeth and tried to
> appear sympathetic to her jerk daughter's situation.  Then I turned it
> on big time about how the dog must be feeling right now, losing his
> home, his family, ending up in a strange place through absolutely no
> fault of his own.  Then I went on to describe what this dog will be
> feeling when she finds herself in a shelter, how scared and unhappy
> she'll be, the fact that she will probably, after all the trauma she'll
> be put through, be pts because she's no spring chicken and there are so
> many other animals at the shelter that will be attractive to potential
> adopters.  Bottom line?  The mother has decided not to put the dog
> through all this.  She's kept the dog, (now ask me if I did the right
> thing, the woman is learning, but she has a long way to go before she
> provides the kind of home I think any animal deserves).
>
> I don't know Kerry.  I'm not in a very good position right now to feel
> empowering.  Back to my mantra:  All we can do, is all we can do.  Good
> luck helping those poor cats.  I'd definitely bring up all the dangers
> and neurosis caused when a declawed cat finds themself in less than safe
> circumstances.
> N
>
> MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
>
> >Hi all
> >I just received this from a co-worker---it makes me so sad (and
> >livid--so I'll need to cool down before I compose a response). Unless a
> >person has really compelling reasons e.g., moving into an unenlightened
> >care facility, why would they be "unable" to take their cats? (She
> >doesn't give a reason which makes me suspicious that the reasons are not
> >compelling.)
> >I think--once I've recovered--I should compose a measured, hopefully
> >educational (that's where you wonderful guys' input particularly comes
> >in) as-helpful-as-possible standard letter for myself to respond to this
> >type of plea. If you have any suggestions for such a response I'd
> >welcome them. I will of course direct her to the no-kill shelters
> >ultimately too, tho I've no idea how they normally respond to this sort
> >of situation. It must happen all the time. (I know, correction, *knew*
> >one woman who gave up her cat because the fiance didn't like cats. Dump
> >the man, more like.)
> >thanks in advance for any info you want to suggest for this forthcoming
> >form letter. And thank God for you guys, the real animal-lovers of the
> >world.
> >Kerry
> >
> >
> >
> >______
> >I am writing because I am moving soon and am unable to take my cats with
> >me. I am therefore in need of a very good home for them. They are
> >brother and sister, 10 years old, and extremely loving and sweet. They
> >are both de-clawed, fixed, and up to date with shots.
> >If you or anyone you know is interested in saving them and giving them a
> >good home, I would be extremely grateful.
> >Please let me know if you are interested in seeing pictures.
> >I really appreciate any help I can get.
> >Thanks,
> >Kim
> >847-945-8520
> >
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