I started my own rescue so I can make my own rules. We are NOT going to euthanize FELV+ cats and we are also not going to spay cats that are almost at term. I'm not sure why it is seen as better to operate on the mom, take the kittens out and euthanize them than it is to just euthanize them after they come out. Anyone who doesn't like this is more than welcome not to foster for us or be involved with us.
I should have known when I found a stray outside that was about to pop with kittens and they told me I "had" to get her spayed that I was not going to do well with this group.
I have adopted one more kitten out since I wrote this, thank goodness.
On 11/11/06, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I found myself in a similar situation when I found out I had an felv cat. My group automatically euthanized positives. Well, they let this positive slip through and in with my own cats and fosters. I adopted all the cats. (I talked them down to a low, low fee. Now they were legally mine and I was able to adopt out some of the cats. I kept about 11 I think and have just kept them through the years. Luckily, no one ever became positive from the positive cat any way. But if I had turned the 'exposed' cats over they would have been euthanized.Now I just do my own rescue and don't deal with groups. If I have too many cats and can't handle more I send to the shelter or try to find a home. If I can't afford more vet bills......... same thing. I do what I can on my own terms.t
Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think so too, but that would hurt a lot of cats. It isn't like it is just a business I would be suing. If it was - I would be suing them already.
On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm no lawyer, but that seems pretty clear to me. If that is the entire contract then they are saying you are only responsible for the food and litter, they clearly state they are responsible for "any" medical care provided you are getting preapproval. There is no caveat about waiting for adoption or that they will only reimburse up to adoption expenses. If this is really the entire contract then they have, in my opinion, acted in bad faith and I would think that in a court you could win reimbursement if you were to take it that far.-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Kelley Saveika" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I don't think they want to take them off my hands. Most of the ones I have are either domestics (they are a Siamese rescue) or cats with chronic health problems that are not going to be easy to adopt out.
I have an IBD kitty (black DSH) with recurring stomatitis issues. She's probably got some other issues also because she is just not a well cat. I'm going to take her back to the vet tomorrow because she is clearly immune compromised (she's COVERED in ringworm, when none of my other guys have it.) She is emaciated despite having had 8 teeth pulled to fix the stomatitis and taking daily flagyl. I have no idea what else could be wrong with her. When she got spayed they said she had cysts on both ovaries. She's neg for both felv and fiv. Of course she has been wormed and all the routine stuff. She's lethargic and seems to take no joy in being alive - I don't know if she is in pain, or ill, or what. I feel really bad because she looks horrible. Like she's not being taken care of at all. But I do the best I can.Then I have another cat with a congenital spine deformity. She's on monthly pain meds and will eventually need to move to steroids and possibly have surgery.I'm not going to say "no one will ever adopt these cats" because I believe that all cats are adoptable. But it will take much longer for them to be adopted than those with no health issues.I'm sending in the bill for the fecal, exam and Panacur from yesterday ($79.27), but I think they are going to say that that is routine and not reimbursable until she's adopted. Plus that is over the amount of the adoption fee, so if I get reimbursed for that I won't get reimbursed for the amoxy she was on to clear her URI, her routine immunizations, spay, etc.I have an adoption system in place since I am opening my own rescue, and am working on getting a petfinder listing. However, their agreement with the local shelter stipulates that they will not release any cats to any organizations that aren't "approved placement partners" and my group is not, and won't be until after we have gotten our letter of determination from the IRS and undergone a 6 month mentoring relationship with an approved placement partner.Oh, here is the verbiage from the foster agreement:The foster parent shall be responsible for the food and litter provided to the cat during its stay with the foster parent. Any medical attention required by the cat shall be pre-approved by xxx and shall then be funded by xxx, except in an emergency. If emergency medical intervention should be required, the foster parent will contact xxx at the first moment possible to obtain approval for emergency medical treatments.
On 10/31/06, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:To some extent it depends on how the foster agreement is worded. Will they take some of these cats off your hands and place in other foster homes? What are they doing to get them adopted? Do they guilt trip you when you ask them to take some of them off your hands?If they won't help lift some of the burden off you, I would write them a very precise letter, askinig that they move some of the cats into foster or adoptive homes by a certain date, and informing them that, if they don't, you will adopt those cats out yourself and apply the adoption fees to your expenses. And then do it.Where are you located? If you are near a major metropolitan area, craigslist.org is usually a pretty good resource for adoptions.
Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi guys,
I hope you will forgive this post. I am not sure who else to ask.I have 26 foster cats right now for one rescue group. The foster agreement for this group states that they will pay for all medical, and the fosters pay for food and litter.Well, it turns out (after I get 26 cats) that they pay for medical *up to the amount of the adoption fee* (so any you spend above that is out of pocket) and if there are "extraordinary" expenses they will pay up to $300. So if you pull a cat from the shelter and that cat turns out to need $1700 worth of medical attention then you need to cough up $1400. Oh yeah.and they do not reimburse for pull fees..so that is another $520 I am out of pocket right there...Now, I would put a second mortgage on my house for my cats, but these cats are NOT mine. They can be taken from me at any time by the organization, even though some have been living with me for a year now. I've put thousands of dollars for these cats expenses on my credit cards and I don't have any more room to put more money on them, so if something happens to one of them - I'm not sure what I am going to do. I do have a Carecredit credit card for the emergency hospital with $2000 worth of credit on it, but I'm trying to save that in case Missy has a cardiac emergency.I'm really depressed over this situation. I have complained about it, but I was told there is only so much money in the fund (then you (the organization) is rescuing too many cats). Now I'm seen as a whiner. I really need to recoup some of these funds so I can continue with my own rescue and take care of my own cats.
What would you do?
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