I am so sorry for your loss, it is extremely painful to watch them go through the final stage, yet being with them through it can strengthen the bond you had together in this life. I have lost so many to this horrible disease, but I did not let them die alone.
Rehab Supervisor Home Health Services of Randolph Hospital [EMAIL PROTECTED] (336)633-7776 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SPAM] - Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 28 - Email found in subject Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Angel Morgana (Kelley Saveika) 2. Re: Angel Morgana (Kelley Saveika) 3. Re: Angel Morgana (Kelley Saveika) 4. Re: Angel Morgana ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Sanctuaries (Gussies mom) 6. Re: Angel Morgana ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7. Re: Sanctuaries ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8. Re: Sanctuaries ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. OT: Updated my website links page, opinions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 10. URI question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 11. [FH] OT: thank you for all your support for 2006 (Hideyo Yamamoto) 12. felv cat......... (Anna) 13. Re: felv cat......... ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 14. Re: felv cat......... (Kelly L) 15. Re: URI question (Kelly L) 16. Re: felv cat......... (Lance) 17. Re: URI question (Susan Hoffman) 18. Re: URI question (Kelly L) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:28:48 -0600 From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Angel Morgana To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wendy, She was at the vet a few weeks ago for a sinus infection. He noted a grade 3 dental needed and halitosis as well as 2/5 body condition scale. He put her on 1/2 dropperful of amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin every 12 hours, plus triple antiobiotic drops for her eyes. She got much better, but when I had a round of URI go around she got that, so I asked the vet and he said I could start her on 1/2 dropperful amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin every 12 hours again. It almost seemed like a reaction to the meds last night..but maybe I hadn't noticed her losing more weight...I talked to her doctor this morning and he said he wouldn't have anticipated this. On 1/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kelley, > > I'm so sorry to hear that you lost little Morgana this > morning. What a horrible thing to happen. Was > Morgana perfectly healthy before this??? Again, I am > so sorry this happened to her. She was lucky to have > had you for a guardian during her time here. > > :) > Wendy > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/85fdd09b/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:29:35 -0600 From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Angel Morgana To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I called the lady I adopted her from and told her. I felt really bad I didn't take better care of her. On 1/15/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:40 PM 1/14/2007, you wrote: > > > I am so very sorry. I sure do not think it was anything you did, those are > safe medications, You are not alone tonight, all of us are here with you, > and share in your loss and sadness. > Kelly Lane > > > I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an hour ago. I noticed > something was not right about the way she was lying and picked her up and > she was doing that awful head lolling thing and panting. I stuck her in a > crate and drove as fast as I could to the emergency hospital but she passed > before I could get there. I gaev her her meds earlier and I wonder if she > had a bad reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin. I > feel like there was something I could have done to stop it. My poor little > girl was only 3. She is a white persian with big beautiful eyes. She is a > tiny girl, just 5.25 pounds. > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/909ff24f/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:30:35 -0600 From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Angel Morgana To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But what if I didn't..what if there was something wrong and I dind't notice...I just know panting is really bad.... On 1/15/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kelley, you did everything you could have possibly done - and she knew she > was loved. I am so sorry. > > elizabeth > > > On 1/15/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an hour ago. I noticed > > something was not right about the way she was lying and picked her up and > > she was doing that awful head lolling thing and panting. I stuck her in a > > crate and drove as fast as I could to the emergency hospital but she passed > > before I could get there. I gaev her her meds earlier and I wonder if she > > had a bad reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin. I > > feel like there was something I could have done to stop it. My poor little > > girl was only 3. She is a white persian with big beautiful eyes. She is a > > tiny girl, just 5.25 pounds. > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/c63e37b8/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:58:44 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Angel Morgana To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" oh my gosh, I am so sorry. Neither amoxicillin nor periactin should do anything like that. Michelle In a message dated 1/15/2007 1:40:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an hour ago. I noticed something was not right about the way she was lying and picked her up and she was doing that awful head lolling thing and panting. I stuck her in a crate and drove as fast as I could to the emergency hospital but she passed before I could get there. I gaev her her meds earlier and I wonder if she had a bad reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin. I feel like there was something I could have done to stop it. My poor little girl was only 3. She is a white persian with big beautiful eyes. She is a tiny girl, just 5.25 pounds. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/fe0cd31f/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:18:42 -0800 (PST) From: Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Sanctuaries To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone any first hand info or heard anything good or bad about the following sanctuaries: Tiger Ranch PA - We are sending 3 FeLV catsd there from a hoarding case Rikkis Refuge - VA Haven Acres FL Beth --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/93f82d26/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:03:28 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Angel Morgana To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oh Kelley, I'm so sorry! Phaewryn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/e155b510/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:05:55 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sanctuaries To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have heard good things about Rikki's Refuge. Not sure about the others. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/752e3cf2/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:06:16 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sanctuaries To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can you send me the websites for the other two, if you have them? Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So far they have had the URI's for about 4 days, and have been on abx for 3 days (Lucy) and 2 days (Patches). I am used to URI's clearing up faster than this. I used to use dox for URI's, but what I have is expired, my vet is out of town, doubt the other guy would give it to me, and am afraid to give it to Lucy at this point due to IBD. But with dox their symptoms used to clear up within a day or so. The only time i have seen a URI go on this long was with Ginger, who got a bad one after dental surgery and was sick for about 3 weeks despite doing a few abx, but once she got I-R (IV) twice it cleared up. My question is this: when your positive cats get URI's, is it typical that the URI's would last this long (4 days) without getting a lot better? They both have stuffy noses and Patches has runny eyes. The discharge is all clear, though Patches seemed to have a tiny bit of yellow from one eye earlier today. They are both eating (Lucy wasn't for a day or so before I-R and abx), grooming, etc. Patches is also playing. But they can't seem to kick the URI. I have a vicks vaporizer running too, and have used nose drops every other day. They are functioning, and not very sick (knock on wood) but it worries me that they are not getting better. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Michelle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope lots of happiness and joys to all of you and your kitties in 2007. Hideyo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20061231/6b2ca4a5/att achment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:14:51 -0700 From: "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: felv cat......... To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" We found out Dec. 29th that our 4 year old cat, Toby is felv positive. We had been treating him for a bladder infec. And asked my vet to do a felv test. He started feeling better while being medicated. Eating and drinking and using the litter box. Coming out to say hi and get some petting. As of yesterday he started sliding back. Not eating or drinking, walking wobbly and hiding and no peeing or pooping. We went back to the vet....more blood work and xrays this time. Blood work is good, xrays showed an area of a swollen intestine. Vet thinks excess lymphatic cells are accumulating there. Toby is staying in the hospital where he will get some more antibiotics and start steroids. Tomorrow more xrays..... I have had cats that have lived 17 and 18 years.This is the first cat I have had the is felv positive. I don't know what to do, where to go for info. Especially anything like lymphatic cells in the intestines.........is this a death sentence ????? Thankyou for any help/info you can give me.... Anna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/2606c10d/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:25:45 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: felv cat......... To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It is possible that it could be intestinal lymphoma, a kind of cancer that FeLV+ cats are vulnerable to. If you can, you should take him to an oncologist right away. Chemotherapy in cats is very effective with lymphoma and not hard on the cats the way chemo is for humans. Some cats can live for years in remission, though that is less common for FeLV+ cats. But I have heard of a few positive cats living over a year with chemo. That said, it might not be lymphoma. If you can not go to an oncologist, try to go to a board-certified internist. They are usually at big veterinary hospitals, vet school hospitals, and veterinary referral centers. They are better at diagnosing and treating positive cats, usually, and some can also treat cancers. Michelle In a message dated 1/15/2007 9:16:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We found out Dec. 29th that our 4 year old cat, Toby is felv positive. We had been treating him for a bladder infec. And asked my vet to do a felv test. He started feeling better while being medicated. Eating and drinking and using the litter box. Coming out to say hi and get some petting. As of yesterday he started sliding back. Not eating or drinking, walking wobbly and hiding and no peeing or pooping. We went back to the vet....more blood work and xrays this time. Blood work is good, xrays showed an area of a swollen intestine. Vet thinks excess lymphatic cells are accumulating there. Toby is staying in the hospital where he will get some more antibiotics and start steroids. Tomorrow more xrays..... I have had cats that have lived 17 and 18 years.This is the first cat I have had the is felv positive. I don't know what to do, where to go for info. Especially anything like lymphatic cells in the intestines.........is this a death sentence ????? Thankyou for any help/info you can give me.... Anna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/22b933f7/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:37:17 -0800 From: Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: felv cat......... To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:14 PM 1/15/2007, you wrote: Nope,,,,,no death sentence,,,,We all have them and many leave long lives...This is a good place for support, good people and lot's of information. Kelly www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com >We found out Dec. 29th that our 4 year old cat, Toby is felv >positive. We had been treating him for a bladder infec. And asked my >vet to do a felv test. He started feeling better while being >medicated. Eating and drinking and using the litter box. Coming out >to say hi and get some petting. > > As of yesterday he started sliding back. Not eating or drinking, > walking wobbly and hiding and no peeing or pooping. We went back to > the vet....more blood work and xrays this time. Blood work is good, > xrays showed an area of a swollen intestine. Vet thinks excess > lymphatic cells are accumulating there. Toby is staying in the > hospital where he will get some more antibiotics and start > steroids. Tomorrow more xrays..... > > I have had cats that have lived 17 and 18 years.This is the first > cat I have had the is felv positive. I don't know what to do, where > to go for info. Especially anything like lymphatic cells in the > intestines.........is this a death sentence ????? > >Thankyou for any help/info you can give me.... >Anna >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/5591932a/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:43:39 -0800 From: Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: URI question To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:32 PM 1/15/2007, you wrote: Expired for how long????Pills or liquid. I will use pills and capsules for almost a year after expiration dates,,,,,Don't tell anyone though, It is the nurse thing in me and most pharmacists can't say it is ok but they tell me it is, liquids,,,no ,,,,, I have a friend that swears by Zithromax,,,I will forward you a site where to get these things without an Rx.....I will get the Zithromax dosage from her and forward it on. http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?Page=2&name=B&sname=b&pty pe=Brand&bysearch= Kelly >Lucy and Patches both have URI's. I am giving them both Lysine, I-R >shots sub-q (which does not seem to be as effective as IV but I have >not wanted to take them to the vet, and Patches passed out last time >someone tried to do something IV to her), and have Lucy on >amoxicillin (only abx she can take without irritating her IBD) and >Patches on clavamox. So far they have had the URI's for about 4 >days, and have been on abx for 3 days (Lucy) and 2 days >(Patches). I am used to URI's clearing up faster than this. I used >to use dox for URI's, but what I have is expired, my vet is out of >town, doubt the other guy would give it to me, and am afraid to give >it to Lucy at this point due to IBD. But with dox their symptoms >used to clear up within a day or so. The only time i have seen a >URI go on this long was with Ginger, who got a bad one after dental >surgery and was sick for about 3 weeks despite doing a few abx, but >once she got I-R (IV) twice it cleared up. > >My question is this: when your positive cats get URI's, is it >typical that the URI's would last this long (4 days) without getting >a lot better? They both have stuffy noses and Patches has runny >eyes. The discharge is all clear, though Patches seemed to have a >tiny bit of yellow from one eye earlier today. They are both eating >(Lucy wasn't for a day or so before I-R and abx), grooming, >etc. Patches is also playing. But they can't seem to kick the >URI. I have a vicks vaporizer running too, and have used nose drops >every other day. They are functioning, and not very sick (knock on >wood) but it worries me that they are not getting better. Any >thoughts would be appreciated. > >Thanks, >Michelle >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/ffaced8b/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:12:45 -0600 From: Lance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: felv cat......... To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Anna, I'm sorry to hear that Toby isn't feeling well. It sounds like you're giving him good care. The main things that seem to be recommended for FeLV cats in general are good diet, low-stress indoor-only living, supplements (interferon alpha seems popular) and lots of love. As for the possibility of lymphatic cells in the intestines and what that might mean, I don't know. Someone else might have an idea. This is a good group of people who will be there for you when you need them. I'm not a vet or FeLV expert, but I have had good results treating my FeLV kitty with Liquid-DMG, Transfer Factor and low-dose human interferon. Once you get the intestinal issue under control, you might look into these and other treatment options recommended on the list. The oncologist and/or board-certified internist is a good idea for Toby's particular case. Down the road, you may also wish to look into holistic vets in your area, but again, for the immediate situation, allopathic treatment seems to be best. Toby will be in my prayers. Lance On Jan 15, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Anna wrote: > We found out Dec. 29th that our 4 year old cat, Toby is felv > positive. We had been treating him for a bladder infec. And asked > my vet to do a felv test. He started feeling better while being > medicated. Eating and drinking and using the litter box. Coming out > to say hi and get some petting. > > As of yesterday he started sliding back. Not eating or drinking, > walking wobbly and hiding and no peeing or pooping. We went back to > the vet....more blood work and xrays this time. Blood work is good, > xrays showed an area of a swollen intestine. Vet thinks excess > lymphatic cells are accumulating there. Toby is staying in the > hospital where he will get some more antibiotics and start > steroids. Tomorrow more xrays..... > > I have had cats that have lived 17 and 18 years.This is the first > cat I have had the is felv positive. I don't know what to do, where > to go for info. Especially anything like lymphatic cells in the > intestines.........is this a death sentence ????? > > Thankyou for any help/info you can give me.... > Anna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/9ae758a2/att achment.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:00:16 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: URI question To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 4 days isn't very long, especially with just amoxi. And since they are both eating, playing and grooming, don't worry too much about this. How much do they weigh? I usually use 50 mg of zithromax for a cat in the 4-7 pound range. (Comes in capsules or tablets, tastes horrific. I dissolve in a tiny amount of water and add pancake syrup, aiming for 50 mg per 1/2 cc dose.) If you buy the Little Noses saline (not decongestant) pediatric nose drops, you can use several times a day and it does seem to help the congestion. Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 05:32 PM 1/15/2007, you wrote: Expired for how long????Pills or liquid. I will use pills and capsules for almost a year after expiration dates,,,,,Don't tell anyone though, It is the nurse thing in me and most pharmacists can't say it is ok but they tell me it is, liquids,,,no ,,,,, I have a friend that swears by Zithromax,,,I will forward you a site where to get these things without an Rx.....I will get the Zithromax dosage from her and forward it on. http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?Page=2&name=B&sname=b&pty pe=Brand&bysearch = Kelly Lucy and Patches both have URI's. I am giving them both Lysine, I-R shots sub-q (which does not seem to be as effective as IV but I have not wanted to take them to the vet, and Patches passed out last time someone tried to do something IV to her), and have Lucy on amoxicillin (only abx she can take without irritating her IBD) and Patches on clavamox. So far they have had the URI's for about 4 days, and have been on abx for 3 days (Lucy) and 2 days (Patches). I am used to URI's clearing up faster than this. I used to use dox for URI's, but what I have is expired, my vet is out of town, doubt the other guy would give it to me, and am afraid to give it to Lucy at this point due to IBD. But with dox their symptoms used to clear up within a day or so. The only time i have seen a URI go on this long was with Ginger, who got a bad one after dental surgery and was sick for about 3 weeks despite doing a few abx, but once she got I-R (IV) twice it cleared up. My question is this: when your positive cats get URI's, is it typical that the URI's would last this long (4 days) without getting a lot better? They both have stuffy noses and Patches has runny eyes. The discharge is all clear, though Patches seemed to have a tiny bit of yellow from one eye earlier today. They are both eating (Lucy wasn't for a day or so before I-R and abx), grooming, etc. Patches is also playing. But they can't seem to kick the URI. I have a vicks vaporizer running too, and have used nose drops every other day. They are functioning, and not very sick (knock on wood) but it worries me that they are not getting better. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Michelle No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I dissolve in a tiny amount of water and add pancake >syrup, aiming for 50 mg per 1/2 cc dose.) > >If you buy the Little Noses saline (not decongestant) pediatric nose >drops, you can use several times a day and it does seem to help the congestion. > > >Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 05:32 PM 1/15/2007, you wrote: > >Expired for how long????Pills or liquid. I will use pills and >capsules for almost a year after expiration dates,,,,,Don't tell >anyone though, It is the nurse thing in me and most pharmacists >can't say it is ok but they tell me it is, >liquids,,,no ,,,,, >I have a friend that swears by Zithromax,,,I will forward you a site >where to get these things without an Rx.....I will get the Zithromax >dosage from her and forward it on. >http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?Page=2&name=B&sname=b&pt ype=Brand&bysearch >= >Kelly > > >>Lucy and Patches both have URI's. I am giving them both Lysine, >>I-R shots sub-q (which does not seem to be as effective as IV but I >>have not wanted to take them to the vet, and Patches passed out >>last time someone tried to do something IV to her), and have Lucy >>on amoxicillin (only abx she can take without irritating her IBD) >>and Patches on clavamox. So far they have had the URI's for about >>4 days, and have been on abx for 3 days (Lucy) and 2 days >>(Patches). I am used to URI's clearing up faster than this. I >>used to use dox for URI's, but what I have is expired, my vet is >>out of town, doubt the other guy would give it to me, and am afraid >>to give it to Lucy at this point due to IBD. But with dox their >>symptoms used to clear up within a day or so. The only time i have >>seen a URI go on this long was with Ginger, who got a bad one after >>dental surgery and was sick for about 3 weeks despite doing a few >>abx, but once she got I-R (IV) twice it cleared up. >> >>My question is this: when your positive cats get URI's, is it >>typical that the URI's would last this long (4 days) without >>getting a lot better? They both have stuffy noses and Patches has >>runny eyes. The discharge is all clear, though Patches seemed to >>have a tiny bit of yellow from one eye earlier today. They are >>both eating (Lucy wasn't for a day or so before I-R and abx), >>grooming, etc. Patches is also playing. But they can't seem to >>kick the URI. I have a vicks vaporizer running too, and have used >>nose drops every other day. They are functioning, and not very >>sick (knock on wood) but it worries me that they are not getting >>better. Any thoughts would be appreciated. >> >>Thanks, >>Michelle >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070115/e1024304/att achment.html End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 28 ****************************************
