I have experience with an orthopedic stockinette "the shirt". It is so much better than the collar. Phaewryn posted a photo a while back...here is the link _http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery2.gif_ (http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery2.gif) Renee >>>The second one is about the 10-days period between surgery and the removal of stitches. The vet indicated, as an alternative to the evil plastic gorget (here in Italy it is called "Elizabethan collar", don't know in the USA but for sure you know what I am talking about), to use a wool or cotton "sleeve" to protect his abdomen, like a vest or "shirt", but with "sleeves", because without something to pass his front legs through, he would push down the edge quite easily. I would absolutely prefer this solution because the Elizabethan collar would keep Rompi from eating, drinking, grooming, and just resting.<<<