When I had a feral, Gigi Sue, she was in a kitty condo cage (2' x 3' x 4') and 
safe, learned to be happy, too.  I could not just reach in a pick her up.  She 
had an igloo or pyramid bed she loved to hide in.  When she needed to go to the 
vet I put a towel over the front of her igloo, lifted it out with her inside 
and pushed it into a carrier big enough for the igloo.  At the vet she was very 
afraid but could be handled somewhat.  Later when she was out of the cage, she 
lived under my bed (except at night when she happily roamed the house without 
the humans in her way).  Again the igloo was handy ... closed the bedroom door, 
shooshed her into the igloo and towel over the front of it ... have to admit 
that often took an hour+ and she and I were very wornout by then. An idea to 
work with though.

Del
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:25 PM
  Subject: Re: ovaban and other stuff....


  In a message dated 3/8/07 7:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
    So no one here has heard much about the use of ovaban for itching and 
calming them down?



    Debbie

  I had to give a male cat ovaban for his urinating (outside of box, 
ANYWHERE!!!).  But, the poor boy was traumatized, owner was fleeing town after 
we had the "Three Mile Island" incident here [Sorry, my memory stinks, but I 
KNOW it was early '80's, at least I "think"].  She was just going to "dump" him 
in a KILL-SHELTER!!!!!   And, at the time, I did have one of his sisters, so, 
regardless of that fact, he came home - to me........
  He DID calm down, used box ALL the time, BUT.........
  That was my Mr. Chow - [my very first encounter w/ Felv.]......  And, to make 
matters worse, when he got older and sickly, he was diagnosed w/ cancer.......  
Upon necropsy [something I detest!!!!], his lymphosarcoma was due to being 
Felv+. (Keep in mind, this was prior to Snap or Elisa testing......)
  I was devastated.......   I still "wonder" about just how they were able to 
diagnose Felv. (????)
  And, he lived w/ me & my furbabies MANY years, and all his friends lived to a 
ripe [healthy] age.....
  On the subject of amytryptilline, we used that at the shelter on many 
stressed-out cats.  And, Blossom [See? I CAN remember some things!], used to 
chew her fur terribly PRIOR!!!  Her nickname was "Bald  Blossom".  After giving 
her the meds, she was "Beautiful Blossom"!  And, as far as I know, which lately 
isn't too much, she is a healthy senior w/ lots of fur!!!!
  What dosage were you RX'ed?   Improper dosage can lead to many "problems".....
  And, don't ask me what we had our Blossom on..... that memory is gone........
  I know I am rambling & am even going to switch topic, but.....
  For vitamins, yes, PetTinic is very good, but we also used Fela-Vite[sp?].  
It's a flavored gel, I even "think" it's made by the same mfg. as Laxatone.  
(????)  Just don't quote me on that......
  And, since I'm changing topic, I also want to say that I am seriously 
contemplating having my Buster put on amytryptilline......  He was Cornelius's 
best friend (the rest of my gang are "snooty", AND THAT'S PUTTING IT MILDLY). I 
rescued Buster shortly after Cornelius, and when Corny passed, well, I was 
really concerned about Buster.  And, he is also a Maine Coon, but now he is a 
DSH!!!  And, he is perfectly healthy, according to my vet..... He's on a good 
[great] diet, no fleas, no allergies....... What's a Mom to do????
  And, I DO have to go back to vet, as soon as I figure out a way to get dear 
Charity into a carrier......
  For those of you not familiar w/ my Charity, she's the feral I've been 
looking after [spayed, tested, vaccinated, plus food & shelter], who led me to 
Black Bart, another REALLY, REALLY mean feral tom [in a BLIZZARD!!!] when he 
was so ill....... They both put their trust in me that night...... Sadly, for 
Bart it was too late.  :(
  But, Charity "allowed" me to carry her back to house, and she's been inside 
ever since....   In a large crate, but until I ever get her to vet, I don't 
want to "expose" her to my other babies.... I even have Timmy, her baby.....Who 
I had to bottle feed 'cause the j*rk that dumped them, put them in a cardboard 
box!!!!  Of course, Mom got out, but I had her 2 teeny babies.... The other 
baby, Thomas, was adopted, but Timmy won't have any of that!!!! [He did get 
adopted while I was in hosp., thank heavens for adoption contracts!!!  He made 
it purr-fectly clear that this was his home!!!!]
  I'm rambling [again], back to Charity........We DID have a vet appt., BUT..., 
upon "seeing" another human, she went ballistic!!!! (I can't drive among other 
handicaps after MVA), so when my rescue buddy came to get us, there was NO way 
to get her in carrier!  I know....my fault, should have already had her in 
carrier.....  But, she has to be at least "semi" manageable for vet appt.  And, 
she does not like any person but me!!!  And, at least prior to MVA I could draw 
blood.....  Now...FORGET IT!!!  My room mate even asked why I brought the EVIL 
CAT in!!!!  (Her "house" is in my laundry room and she freaks whenever he goes 
in there!!!)
  So just how can I expect a vet & staff to handle her???  With me, she's a 
mush.... She "allows" me to stroke her, even PURRS!!!  And, sometimes when she 
pretends to scratch me, she doesn't even have her claws out!!!  I just don't 
know what to do...... Living in a crate is MUCH better than life outside in 
this weather here.....
  Suggestions, anyone????
  Debbie & everyone, sorry I rambled so much.  Can you tell I don't get out 
much?

  Patti & her gang






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