Thank you.

Yes I am giving Interferon Alpha, but haven't looked at Immuno regulin or 
Dexamethasone.  I'm not sure if I should be giving him even more than he is 
already on right now.  I'll have to check into those though, if the Prednisone 
doesn't help.

Tomi has been acting a little bit odd yesterday and today.  He seems a bit 
restless, looking around like he is searching for something.  It could be he's 
just looking for some more dirt to eat, since I got rid of all the clay cat 
litter.

Cassandra
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marissa Johnson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: To Cassandra: Re: Tomi's red blood cell count going down,any 
suggestions?


  Hey Cassandra.  What Tomi's going through sounds very similar to what Slinky 
went through (though his numbers were MUUUUUCH lower and his transfusion really 
didn't help him any).  I would probably keep him on the doxy...I don't think 
that would hurt.

  Re: Epogen (Erythropoetin)...I don't know how much you know, but I'll share 
my limited knowledge and experience.  Epogen is the hormone the kidneys produce 
that stimulates the bone marrow to produce red blood cells.  It's typically 
given for kidney failure...which makes sense since it's there to replace the 
hormone the kidneys aren't producing.  Some people on this list said they have 
seen it work for cats with felv who are anemic.  It didn't really help Slinky 
at all.  The vet was willing to try it but didn't think it would do much since 
she said (like yours) that his kidneys were probably producing it like crazy 
but his bone marrow couldn't respond.  

  You can give Epogen at home yourself if you can get a scrip for it (it's 
given sub-q).  One thing to note, since it's a human drug, they can develop 
antibodies to it.  The numbers I've seen are that about 30-40% of cats will 
develop antibodies.  Most of what you'll see online will say that it's given 
about 3 times a week (sometimes more for severe anemia).  However, my vet (who 
I love and trust completely) did her own research and said that most people 
only give it once a week for felv cats.  The reasoning is that a) cats with 
felv tend to develop the antibodies more quickly (so if it was going to work, 
it won't once the antibodies are developed) and b) because the kidneys are 
probably producing the hormone, by giving an additional dose 3 times a week you 
can actually overload the bone marrow and make matters worse rather than better.

  Just some things to keep in mind.  Have you looked into anything like 
Interferon (alpha is the human drug, omega is for cats but is expensive and has 
to be ordered from another country) or Immuno Regulin?  I tried IR with Slinky, 
but it didn't help.  But it may have been that we started it too late.  I don't 
know.  There's some good info in the archives about both IR and Interferon.  
Someone also mentioned Dexamethasone to me for Slinky.  It's a stronger steroid 
that may help stop the body from destroying the RBC's...and could even help him 
develop more.  But since it's stronger, it can also further suppress the 
immmune system.  I dont know much about dex though, so you'd have to look into 
it first.

  That's all I know.  I hope you can sort everything out and find an effective 
way to treat Tomi.  I'll be praying for you both that he will get better!!  
Hang in there.

  *hugs*

  MJ and Angel Slinky

  wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Hey Cassandra,

    Since the doxy is so important in treating the
    hemobart, how long was Tomi on it? It doesn't seem
    like he's had enought time on the doxy, especially if
    he did test positive for hemobart.

    Here is a good article on treating hemobartonella, but
    it says three weeks for the doxy. I concur with
    Phaewryn that the doxy might need to be given longer
    to work with the surpressed immune system, but I can't
    verify this over the Internet from the limited pages I
    have seen. All pages say three weeks. Keep doing all
    your supplements though, especially the lysine. Make
    sure your lysine has no additives, especially
    propylene glycol, which causes blood issues in cats.

    I don't have any advice on trying the Epogen (can't
    remember the name you wrote; it was something
    similar). You might talk to an internal veterinarian
    about this. 

    I know it's hard Cassandra to deal with this on a day
    to day basis. Just try to make every day you do have
    the best so that you don't regret anything if Tomi
    does leave you. And take pictures. They are
    invaluable. It sounds like you are doing everything
    you can for Tomi. I will pray for his regained
    health, and for peace for you.

    :)
    Wendy

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