Hi Christiane,

I appreciate you sharing your experience with me.....I wonder how often a situation like yours really occurs? Are there many other people on this list that also mix their negative and positive cats with the same outcome of not transmitting it to the negatives? My cats will always be vaccinated from now on but after so many of mine turning positive out of the blue like this I'm just a bit more paranoid about doing this. One of my cats that was spared being infected is my 11 year old Son Nate's cat, Halo. He got him when he was going through a hard time and was just diagnosed with Tourette's Syndrome and Halo has been a godsend for him. Nate was just one bundle of nerves for days while we waited for the weekend to pass so we could get him tested and when the results came back I just saw the extreme relief on his face and now he too is worried about letting them live together since he heard the vet say the vaccine is not 100%. I let him read your post about your situation and if I can relay more stories to him I think he may relax a bit and at least make it so maybe the isolated kits can visit with us and the negatives at least a little each day to try and make them a bit happier as well until we can find them homes. So every little bit of input and stories shared is always helpful....thanks:)

Deb




----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: We need answers...


Deb
I have 5 cats--2 Pos, 3 Neg.  One of the pos tested neg when she was a
kitten & then showed pos when she was about 4 years old.  She had never been
outside since I got her at about 10 weeks; never been exposed to cats other
than the one I had at the time and two others that came in as kittens after
her.  Both vets (& literature I read) said that tests in young kittens can
be false negative as well as false positive.  All of my negs are now
vaccinated and never showed pos even though they had been exposed since they
were kittens (shared litter, food, grooming, etc.).

Bottom line is that this is an ancient disease & there are likely millions
out there with it that nobody knows about.  It is NOT so easy to
transmit--look at my three negs.  I vaccinate my negs and give my two pos
good food, comfy home, and they're OK!  They all live together and have had
no problems with illness.

Christiane Biagi
914-632-4672
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Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)
www.findkpets.org

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deb Stockbridge
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: We need answers...

Hi Sheryl,

I live in MA and have just started local searches but have yet to find
anyone who can help me.  I know this will take some time but you are
right...to have been hit with this all so unexpectedly and now trying to
deal with this is very frustrating, expensive and emotionally draining....on

me , my family and my cats:(  I was told by so many breeders/vets not to
vaccinate for FELV because the risks are too high and since my cats are
indoors there was no need BUT look at this nightmare I'm facing now.  I
don't know if the vaccine would've made a difference but if I could've saved

even one I would be happy.  I've had people tell me I'm a fool for
vaccinating my negative kits but what choice did I have?  I'm at the vet
with all my cats and it was a bad scene all around and they said vaccinate
to save them and I did.  I just hope I didn't do any more damage here:(  The

conflicting info is amazing and it makes it very hard to know what the right

thing is to do but what I'm finding is that the people/rescues with actual
experience with FELV+ cats are the ones who know best and that is how I'm
proceeding with my cats.  I guess you just have to choose a route and stick
with it otherwise no one is going to benefit and the cats will lose in the
end.  I hope you find the help and homes you need for your kits...it sounds
like you have some good resources where you live. Hang in there:)

Deb
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheryl Spagg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: We need answers...


Hi Deb,
I am not sure where you are located, but there are
sanctuaries for FELV cats.  There is one in NC,
Nevada, and I have heard that there is one in Buffalo,
NY as well which is very close to me.  I am hoping one
of them will accept my momma and babies or I will
continue to try and find homes for them.  My neighbor
wants the 6 month old with the URI who may become
negative from the exposure they had last week and she
wants one of the babies, but I worry because she
already has a cat that is healthy...I have given her
some info. and will give her more of the stuff Mary
sent to me.  There is just no true answers out there I
feel and it sure is frustrating!
Sheryl


--- Deb Stockbridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hi Sheryl,

I'm new on this list as well.  Your house sounds
like mine.  I also have 3
FELV+ kits to find homes for and may have a Mom and
her 5 kittens that are
positive as well.  All my cats are indoor cats and
the Mom and kittens are
from a breeder that shut down and I have no idea
where this all came from.
One minute I have a house full of healthy cats and
the next thing I know
they are all FELV+.  Many of mine previously tested
negative under the age
of a year so I know even the testing isn't always
accurate. I'm still
learning about all this too. I have vaccinated my
negative cats in hopes of
protecting them and was told sometimes positive cats
can live with
vaccinated cats no problem but I'm having a very
hard time being able to
even try and my son just freaks out that he is going
to get our healthy kits
sick so I don't think that will be an option for us.
 I listed a couple on
the FELV+ site to see if anyone wants to adopt them
but I've been told it's
very hard to find homes for these kits:(    If I had
a nice big home and the
space where I could keep these kits happy I would
choose that route. As it
is, the 3 I have separated are constantly trying to
get out and cry whenever
I leave them alone.  Mine are older(except the one 6
month old Savannah) and
used to being with us 24/7.  It's been 3 weeks now
and they still have not
adjusted to being shut in one room...it just breaks
my heart:(   Right now
I'm just taking it all one day at a time.....Good
luck with your kits.

Deb


----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheryl Spagg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: We need answers...


> Thanks for your most pleasant reply Mary...I
greatly
> appreciated it.  I think my biggest questions
right
> now is transmission.  I have 4 cats already in my
> house.  I have the momma and kittens in a spare
room
> with a baby gate and a towel at the bottom of the
baby
> gate plus, the spare room has wood floors and my
hall
> has carpet so there is a very good seal when the
door
> is closed...I am hoping I am not putting mine at
risk,
> but from everything I have read I shouldn't be.
The 6
> month old boy who tested negative was with the
momma
> and babies for 4 days in a bathroom.  I am not
sure if
> they shared food/water bowls but I would guess
they
> did plus litter boxes.
> I feel like my house is a vet hospital at this
> point...I have 2 of my own cat who are diabetics,
1 of
> my own with seizures and now I have to bottle feed
a
> new baby kitten who may be FELV+ and the 6 month
old
> boy has an URI and ear mites and also needs to be
> separated...my poor house is just chuck full of
> illnesses!!!
> I totally understand where you are coming from
with
> the put to sleep after diagnosis comment.  We got
that
> from the other rescuers we work with but my friend
and
> I did not feel we knew enough to warrant that
extreme
> of action.  The more we learn the more we want to
find
> them homes...can positive kitties live in a home
with
> negative kitties without transmitting the disease?
> Thanks again Mary!
> Sheryl
>
>
>
> --- MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>> FELV+, FIV+, FIP <http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html>
>>
>> great site, put together by one of this group's
>> members. has links to what's
>> generally accepted by the scientific community --
>> tho there's still so much
>> more we need to learn. (hard to do research when
the
>> first line of treatment
>> has, for way too long, been euthanasia! really
>> limits the test
>> population....)
>>
>> there's some conflicting info there, too, of
course,
>> because some of the
>> stuff is older than others. you'll notice,
however,
>> that the scariest info
>> you've heard is NOT true, according to all of the
>> professionals!
>>
>> lots of folks will be glad to answer your
questions
>> as they come up; take a
>> deep breath, grab one of the kitties, read the
>> articles--then see what more
>> info you need.
>>
>> (oh, and REALLY REALLY check our archives about
>> testing/retesting!)
>>
>> MC
>>
>> On 5/6/07, Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> > I certainly hope I am doing this right...I am a
>> member of other lists, but
>> > this one appears different for some
>> reason...anyway, my friend and I rescued
>> > 8 kittens last weekend.  2 were older kitties.
1
>> was a momma cat with 3
>> > kittens and 3 other kittens we had to give to
her
>> because their other momma
>> > disappeared...and then a 6 month old.  The male
6
>> month old tested negative
>> > on a combo...but the momma ended up testing
>> positive for FELV.  My friend
>> > and I do not know as much as we wish we did
about
>> this.  We have separated
>> > the momma and babies into a separate room than
the
>> male kitty.  We
>> > understand he may have contracted it from her,
we
>> need to test him again in
>> > 4 months.  We want to know as much as we can
about
>> this disease and how
>> > dangerous it is for other non-positive kitties.
>> Can anyone recommend any
>> > sites for us to visit or anyone to talk to?  We
>> have searched online but
>> > have found so many different opinions on this
that
>> it is hard to get
>> > answers...some say you can spread the disease
>> through sharing food and water
>> > bowls and others say you can't.  We are beyond
>> frustrated at this point and
>> > need all the help we can get...
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sheryl
>> >
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