Hi Nina,

I Love to hear more and more experiences from all of you that mix negatives and 
positives...it's building my confidence more each day.  What I need to know is 
do you still keep them together if one still has a persistent cough that just 
won't clear even after treatment or if one sneezes here or there?  My situation 
as it is now is that I have 3 positives , the two boys that I might have homes 
for , and my calico girl that I thought I had a home for but after seeing her 
with symptoms of her cough which I had thought went away, I feel I can't let 
her move and be more stressed out until I can get her completely healthy and a 
little more weight on her.  My boys seems healthy but may sneeze here and there 
or have a little cough....nothing persistent or on a daily basis so I was just 
wondering if it's still OK to mix them with my negative boys?  My Calico girl 
is back on antibiotics and while she was with us that night for about 5 hours 
,before she had that bad coughing spell she was fine for the 5 hours.  So can 
she still be with my negative boys while I treat her.  You said I should've 
seen her face when I had to confine her......well I barely could see her face 
because I was crying my eyes out myself:(  She was not put by herself thank god 
, otherwise I would've grabbed a sleeping bag and slept with her!  She was put 
back with her two feline brothers who are also positive so I hope she wasn't 
too distraught....I sure know I was though!!  I know my kits have all been 
exposed and I have now vaccinated the negative ones. I just don't know the do's 
and don'ts of mixing them all together again.  I think I'm so scared because I 
had thought I had 6 healthy cats, 3 had been tested for FELV and showed 
negative and lived healthy and happily for over 2 years.  I then brought in 3 
more over the past year of which one tested negative and I never tested the 
last two thinking they came from parents that were tested.  Then all of the 
sudden one gets sick and I have 3 FELV+ cats, one is my oldest Bengal boy who 
tested negative previously and then the two that were never tested.  None are 
related.  I was told this is a rare situation and if FELV doesn't spread that 
easily then why are 3 of mine infected?  So I either have really bad luck and 
more than one brought this in my home and the FELV tests I had done that were 
negative meant nothing or the last 2 I brought in came here with it and spread 
it to my adult cat.  I will never know, but after having been hit with 3 of my 
6 cats getting this disease at one time with still one kit to test, to me that 
makes me think this spreads like wildfire and that is why I'm so nervous about 
putting them all back together.  The first night we decided to bring up my 
calico girl was after I had fed them all so they didn't share any food dishes 
and my other kits didn't really even go near her as they were surprised to see 
her and she just really followed me around the house all night and then fell 
asleep with me while my boys seemed a bit mad that I was showering attention on 
her all night and they slept with my Son so there wasn't much contact in that 5 
hours. I'm trying to my best to get used to doing this but I'm still in panic 
mode here and just trying to learn all I can and make sure I do right by all my 
cats.  For now I'm trying to rehome the positive boys that I know will take a 
move easier and the home I found for my 6 month old boy sounds perfect as he 
will have a 7 month old FELV+ playmate.  This home might take both boys but I 
won't know until she comes to meet them.  So this is where I'm at right now and 
my mind is spinning every day with more info and seems to change daily on how 
much I can handle so I'm just taking it all a day at a time and giving them as 
much TLC as I can until I figure this all out:) 

Thanks for your advice/input here.....it's much appreciated:)

Deb




From: Nina 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: New Member - Deb and mixing


  Deb,
  I'm pleased to hear you have potential adopters for your boys.  I'm hoping 
that someone will adopt them together.  Tell those folks to come join us here!

  Forgive me for responding without reading your previous posts, you may 
already have addressed this, but...  I am one of the people that have mixed 
negs and pos together, (with the negs being vaccinated).  I have done this for 
years without any of my negs turning pos, but I understand what a difficult 
decision it is to make.  In my case, I had brought in a litter of felv bottle 
babies and didn't find out they were pos until they had been mixing freely with 
the rest of the household for months.  It still gave me pause, (because the 
vets and the literature suggested segregating, hell, they suggested euthanizing 
too), but it would have been hard on everyone concerned to separate them at 
that point.  One of my cats at the time was a born-in-the-wild feral that had 
had no shots at all and had mixed right into the litter as if it were her own.  
(She tested neg later, boy did I sweat that one).  I took a leap of faith and 
followed my heart and kept everyone together.  I felt fairly safe in making 
this decision, (as far as the guilt/fear factor goes), because everyone had 
already been exposed. Perhaps explaining it in that way might make your son 
more receptive to the idea?   For Heaven's sake, you've already re-exposed your 
neg cats with last night's visiting.  I mean no disrespect, but it seems a 
little like locking the barn door after the horse has escaped, (again).

  Everyone loved our felv babies.  I don't think there was an animal in the 
house that hadn't spent very intimate time with them.  I recently lost a 
stray-turned-resident with both fiv and felv.  During his last weeks I cringed 
everytime he sneezed felv germs all over the house.  I haven't had the others 
tested since Spencer passed, (I will if anyone gets symptoms of illness), but 
I'm confident that no one has contracted felv.

  I would never judge anyone's decisions about mixing.  We all understand both 
sides of the argument too well.  I can hear how dedicated you are to helping 
these babies and I thank you for everything you are doing for them.  I just 
wanted to throw my two cents in because I can just picture that little girl's 
face when she was closed off from the family again.  None of the decisions we 
are forced to make are easy, and all too few results of those decisions are 
truly in our control. 
  Blessings to you and your family,
  Nina


  Deb Stockbridge wrote: 
    OMG Phaewryn, YOU ARE A GODSEND!!   You posted my boys last night and 
already I have a home for Bruschi and possibly one for Jadon as well!  Someone 
very close by me saw them on Petfinder and fell in love with both but thinks 
Bruschi will be the perfect match for her FELV+ female 7 month old kitten so 
that's who she chose and she might know of a friend who can also take Jadon.  
I'm meeting with her on Friday and will know then if both boys have a new home. 
 I'm just crying over having to do this so soon as I never expected this quick 
of a response but also crying for the joy of having potential homes where my 
boys can have free roam of their new homes and interact with people like they 
were used to here before I had to keep them confined.  I will let you know 
Friday how things go.....keep your fingers crossed all goes well for me and my 
boys!  I just can't thank you enough for your help and it has made dealing with 
all this that much easier to handle.....one step at a time:)  

    BTW....after reading a few of the emails from others about how they mix 
their positives and negatives with pretty good luck I tried to do this last 
night after finally talking my Son into letting us try it with one at a time.  
All was well and boy was our girl happy and meowing up a storm for the first 
couple hours and we were just all so happy to have her with us again UNTIL 
later that night she had a coughing spell and it woke me up as well as my Son 
and my Son started crying and asking where our two negative kits were and it 
freaked him out more than I expected and I had to confine her with the two boys 
again:(  I have to admit it scared me as well and I know it would take some 
time to get used to but I think with every sneeze or cough we would just think 
what it could be doing to our healthy cats and I just don't think I can put my 
Son through that again.  I really commend all of you who can manage a positive 
and negative household and if it was just me and my husband I think I could 
eventually get used to the idea but just not right now with my Son here with 
us.  I love ALL my babies and it would be ideal to keep them all if I could let 
them live together but for now it's best I find homes for these special kits. 
You are all just wonderful people helping these animals with health issues and 
though I can't foster them in my own home , if I can help in any other way, 
with transporting or any other aspect of rescue please let me know:)  

    Take Care,

    Deb

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