Regarding finding new clinics, ask around and also maybe call them up
and drop in for a chat to see how you feel about the place. You'll
know--after all, you're the mommy now! Congrats on one whole week
caring for them! I felt kind of psychotic after the first week from
lack of sleep--and I had one day there that I never got out of my
nightgown!
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 8, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Deana K. Wagoner wrote:
I really think the ragdoll was dumped and just took up with the
ferals. She certainly stood out from the crowd! She adapted to
indoor life nicely and hasn't wanted to venture out again after
finding soft furniture and beds to lounge on!
The deal with the testing really does have me baffled.
I am not sure how to go about selecting another vet, but there are
some Cat only clinics in my area. Would they be more likely to be
up on the latest?
Thanks for all the help! I am certainly glad that I found this list.
-----Original Message-----
From: MaryChristine
Sent: May 8, 2007 2:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: need advice from new member
i'm sorry, a FERAL ragdoll? that's almost as oxymoronic as a feral
persian! most raggies need to take classes to even learn how to
hiss and growl....
okay, to get serious. (me?)
have to agree with kelley.
sounds to ME that if a vet did a second snap test right away, it's
because they were pretty sure they messed up the first one: there's
a very specific set of steps you have to go through to do the snap
correctly, and there is NO reason to redo it immediately--unless
you forget to have the test out of the refrigerator for the correct
time, you didn't have enough blood, you didn't put in enough test
solution, you "snapped" the test wrong (if it's not kept perfectly
level, the test is compromised), and you didn't check the test
circles at the right time. ie, they screwed up. and when they screw
up that badly, i wouldn't particularly trust them to have done the
second one correctly either. so much for my humble opinion on that.
the latest research that i have read seems to be leading to mom-
kitten transmission being as much, if not more, from the actual
birth PROCESS (contact with the mucous membranes) than from in-
utero infection, with the even more "dangerous" thing being all the
nursing and mutual grooming momcat does as the babies as learning
about the real world. if this is true, then these kittens may have
a very good chance of not being positive.
since mom died from injuries and not anything related to a
compromised immune system per se, she might have been in the
process of throwing off the virus herself, and so to assume that
either she OR the babies would/will remain positive is
unscientific, unmedical, and that vet should be ashamed of himself.
FELV+, FIV+, FIP play out the articles on FeLV (heck, on all three
since i'm sure he's no more aware on those) for him. there is
really no excuse for a medical professional to CHOOSE to remain
ignorant when information is out there.
and yes, unfortunately, it IS common--after all, why learn anything
or tax your skills when the first line of treatment is the easiest:
just kill them all!
(sorry, hon, but we around here get REALLY hissed when we keep
hearing this stuff.....)
THANK YOU FOR NOT LISTENING TO HIM!
because, even if they ARE positive, if they're healthy and happy,
they have as much right to occupy space as any of us. (and more
than some? oops, i didn't say that.)
MC
On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nooooo do not put any kittens to sleep because there is a pos test.
1. They may not be pos.
2. I am confused about the original test. It is not common to test a
kitty twice, especially one who was injured and is dying. Was the
kitty tested before death? Really confused about this part.
3. GET ANOTHER VET. This one sounds awful.
On 5/8/07, Deana K. Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> I am new to the list and need some advice. We have a number of
ferals in our neighborhood and there has been an effort to trap/
spay-neuter as many as possible. I have been successful in turning
two of them into great house cats. One was negative and
vaccinated at 6 months of age. She is about 12 months now. The
other kitty is several years old and was spayed, but as far as I
know she wasn't tested. She lived on my patio for a year then
decided to be a house cat. I haven't had her tested yet, but she is
very healthy. I suspect she is a cat that ran off/got lost or was
dumped. She is a Rag Doll and really doesn't act like a true feral.
> Another feral in the neighborhood had a little late last summer.
Before I could capture these guys, one of the females got pregnant
and delivered the litter of kittens on my patio. When the kittens
were a day old, a neighbor's dog attacked the stray mother and got
one of the kittens. The mother cat went up a tree, then took off.
I tried to follow her, with no luck. I watched the kittens for
about four hours, and she never returned. We got some kmr and feed
the 4 remaining kittens, continuing to watch for her to return.
She returned in the middle of the night on Sunday night in a rain
storm, obviously in bad shape. I just happened to look out when I
was up in the middle of the night bottle feeding the kittens. I
took her to the vet as soon they opened yesterday morning, but she
died from the injuries. The vet suggested testing her for FeLV.
(with the comment that if the cat was positive, you wouldn't want
to treat her any way.) The vet reported there was a negative test,
then a second test was positive. The vet then suggested that all
of the kittens be PTS immediately with the chance that they were
positive.
>
> I haven't had cats much for the last 20 years, although I grew up
with cats- all before FeLV was identified – so I am not familiar
with it. Based on what I am reading, there are LOTS of questions
about test results/vaccinating/etc.
>
> We are bottle feeding the kittens and they are growing like
crazy, crawling all over the place and don't appear at all sick.
They were only with their mother just under 24 hours. (born last
Thursday.)
> Is this common to just give up on the babies without knowing if
they are positive or not? I would appreciate any advice.
>
> Thanks
> Deana
>
>
>
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