Nina, I hope you feel better soon. Us 'old timers' are still here. I guess it's easier for us to just ignore Jennifer's (phaeryn's) rants. I don't think most people agree with them, but she is her own person and has her own ideas. You will be missed and I hope you are back (with a back feeling better) soon. love, tonya
Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Wendy and all, I'm cc'ing Michelle this, (maybe someone has already sent her a copy of your post to Phaewryn), I'm guessing she'll appreciate it as much as I did. You may have noticed my absence on the list lately... My back is giving me trouble and it makes it hard to sit at the computer for more than a few minutes at a time. Like so many of us, I'm also overwhelmed with rescue efforts, (a young, emaciated pregnant girl, just a kitten herself, showed up in my front yard last Thurs and had her babies on Sat!). I'll be pulling back from the list for at least a while. I'm not sure how much Phaewrn's latest tirade had to do with the decision, but I just don't seem to have the energy to share right now. Maybe it has nothing to do with the changing dynamics of the list at all and it's just a matter of exhaustion and physical pain. I hope I'll be back soon. I feel a little traitorous leaving you all, so many of the "old-timers" seem to be posting less and less. This list has been a Godsend to me and so many others, I will always be grateful for the support, friendship, information and feeling of HOME that I've experienced here. Much love and good wishes to all of you always, Nina wendy wrote: > Phaewryn, > > This is the 3rd time in a year that you have gone off > on other members inappropriately and then claimed to > be leaving. I think you need to stop. It is not > right or fair to insult other people and then stick > your neck in the sand. No one here agrees 100% with > any other member on this site. When this happens, > either we respectfully disagree, or we just don't say > anything. There is no reason to go on a mission to > destroy. It is so clear that when you do this, > there's much more underlying your verbal spews that > has nothing to do with this group and everything to do > with your own life. If you are stressed out, stop > taking it out here. It's not right. > > I completely disagree with your statement that for the > past year that the validity of the site has been > laughable. If you remember, I joined this list a year > a half ago. I have learned SO MUCH from this list in > the past year a half, and that knowledge has spurred > me to do a lot of further research. I am actually > able to help others here. I came here so needy and > ignorant only to come out more knowledgeable on many > aspects of feline care, all because of the loving > members of this group. That includes you. No, I > didn't prescribe to all the advice given, but took it > all in, did my own research, and am still paying it > back to new members who came her just like I did. The > validity of this group is just as strong as it was six > years ago. > > What you say about a/c's could be true, but you don't > know. I don't know. Neither of us have tried one. > You can't prove anything intangible exists anyway. > What would you say to someone who says you don't love > your son because it can't be proven? Indeed, it > cannot be proven in a quantitative or tangible way, as > no intangibles can. You can't see them, you can't > touch them. But nevertheless, your love for your son > IS there and it IS true. Same way for faith in God > for some of us. So I hope that you will begin to > question your own belief that unless you can prove > something, it might as well not exist. > > There is suffering in the world so we can grow. If > there were no suffering, there would be no happiness. > You cannot know real happiness if you never have > struggles and make personal growth. And FYI, prayer > is not crap. You have asked for it yourself here. > > Please, make an effort to hold your tongue. The > 24-hour rule always works for me. Write your letter > in a word document, save it, and go back and read it > in 24 hours. Revise as needed. You might need 48 > hours. I did it when writing this post to you. I > waited until I slept on it before responding. And my > post shows much less anger, and more sense than it > would have had I immediately responded. > > Save your sarcasm for yourself. No one else > appreciates it. Dealing with sick animals is hard > enough without you making everyone feel badly. I felt > like you once, over ten years ago, making everyone > around me feel bad because I felt bad inside. I got > help with a great counselor for a year. Worked > through a lot of childhood issues. Some adult issues. > I've been a new woman ever since. Stronger, more > secure, and most importantly, happier with who I am. > I'll never regret my decision to get help. I wouldn't > wish on my worst enemy to feel like I did before I got > help. And I certainly don't wish it on you or anyone > else on this list. I truly hope, and will pray, that > you find some way to deal with these issues in your > personal life that keep plaguing you. Life has so > much to offer us. > > Sincerely, > Wendy > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change > the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > >
