No, I think it's a regular injection type.
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  From: MaryChristine<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:15 AM
  Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge


  the intranasal one, hideyo?


  On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
wrote: 
    by the way, did you know there is a now new type of felk vaccine, much 
safer than traditional ones -- I will get the name if you guys are not already 
aware of this.
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      From: MaryChristine<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
      To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM
      Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge


      right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn 
feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's what 
on theirs. http://www.winnfelinehealth.org <>

      HOWEVER, i know that i saw that 70% figure in a number of places, and it 
annoys me that i can't find it now.

      re: vaccinated cats' immunity, as far as anyone i've heard of can tell, 
there are NO, zip, zilch, nada, eppes documented cases of a vaccinated TRUE 
NEGATIVE (ie, retested after the 120 days necessary) who has ever turned 
positive from living with a true, retested positive. we all know of cases where 
supposedly negative cats have turned up positive later, but in none of those 
cases was the negative result ever verified. i know that in two households, 
mine and at the sanctuary, with all cats supposedly negative, we've found out 
later that SOMEONE was actually positive, when cats got sick. 

      also according to the winn feline foundation, the new FeLV vaccines are 
about 95% effective. (like gloria, i really don't like to think about where 
they are coming up with the statistics, and what they're doing to our cats to 
do so.) however, anyone with experience with FeLVs in large numbers has 
questioned the "85% efficacy rate" of the vaccine for a long time, in light of 
the high percentage of UNVACCINATED cats who throw off the virus, and the fact 
that vaccinated cats living with positives stay negative. 

      i've questioned whether or not that 85% if just among kittens, frail 
elders, and other compromised populations....

      thanks for the links, hideyo!


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