Beth:
If you have suggestions for Monkee that won't go through, you can email me privately. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I totally don't care and I am just not paying attention to this whole OT thing....I don't have the energy for that.
I tried to post some pix of Monkee a while ago so that you all could get a look at who you've been helping so much in the past few weeks...and it was awaiting moderator approval and never went through. But as long as my Super-Duper important emails go through, that's all that matters!
-Caroline and Monkee
From: "elizabeth trent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:50:53 -0500
well -- apparently my response to this thread is awaiting moderator approval. all i did was talk about the treatment i used for mama kitty when she was so sick and had appetite troubles.. call me disillusioned --- but i have a really short fuse right now. if i get booted from this list -- any one of you are free to email me privately at[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/11/07, Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I believe in the animal communicators.A fellow rescuer who has one of the "kannibal kitties" (like my Purrla Princess Pearl) went to a seminar and she took Cali's picture w/ her.That was all the psychic had to go on.She looked @ the picture and began crying and said, "Where are all the other cats (there were 240+) and what happened to that man?"It was pretty weird.......www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
"As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause,
Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
Trajan Tennent----- Original Message -----From: MarylynSent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:01 PMSubject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
----- Original Message -----From: MarylynSent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:22 PMSubject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
You are supposed to be anxious----every time Dixie decides not to eat for a couple of days I go off. Luckily she understands this and starts eating about the time I am ready to yank her up and return to Louisville to her vets. It is amazing that she doesn't do this when we are in Louisville and the vets are 15-20 minutes away............she really does not like vets.This is way out there but you sound open. Sit and talk to Monkee and see what he has to say about all of this. There are people on this list that use animal communicators and there are people who think they are con artists. I use them and they have been very helpful for me. The thing is you really can do it yourself although a lot of the times you can't with your own little one because you are so close. An idea..........take from it what you can use and leave the rest.If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow man.
St. Francis----- Original Message -----Caroline KaufmannSent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:12 PMSubject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
Well, he's not eating at tonight. It's so frustrating. I tried baby food and kitten formula cat food and the buffalo again. He seemed interested in the buffalo, but when it came time to actually eat it, he just kind of "air nibbled" over it? It seems like he's not making the connection that he needs to eat. Yet, he wants to go outside and walk around. And I just can't let him do that because I know it wear him out way too much- especially with not eating. So he just sits out on his porch and watches the colony of street cats eats his premium cat food voraciously!!!! Ugh. When he was healthy, I swear, that would have driven him right over the edge! He's still bright eyed. And while he still has wants and desires (even if they are mostly to go outside!), I think that's a good sign. He's also sleeping well-- which when the anemia kicked in, pre-transfusion, he was not sleeping well at all. I wake up many times each night and I always check on him and if he on my bed, laying on his side with his legs stretched out, all passed out....I breath such a sign of relief!
I did give him his Nutrical, colostrum and some baby food (with water) via a syringe (my mom brought me a 12 cc one). He doesn't LOVE it, but he's so good for me when it comes to handling (for what was originally a super-skittish stray?), and he swallows fine. I got 3 syringe fulls in him.
I will try not to "sound the alarm bells" about the not eating. It's hard though because this is my first time in this realm and I do feel like a nursing mother who has a baby that won't latch on or something! It's like I have all this anxiety about it that pops into my head all the time!
Thanks for calming me down.
-Caroline
From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:47:56 -0500
Don't read so much into the lack of appetite. It is hot, humid, has been raining there, and he may just not be hungry. This is not the time to get depressed. Next time you are at Whole Foods try the Fage (Greek yogurt) or Chatham's sheep's yogurt. Dixie loves them. Cool, creamy, full of good stuff (I don't tell her this though), and not as tart as the cow's yogurt. She gets the full fat version (if I am going to buy the stuff for her I want her to really enjoy it). She likes it so well that I brought back 3 16 oz sheep's yogurts, a Fage and a goats' yogurt this trip.You are going to worry. That is what people who love do. Call Susan in the morning if you have not heard from her. You are feeding high protein buffalo which is good. Try to relax a little and enjoy Monkee. He has lots to teach you.If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow man.
St. Francis----- Original Message -----Caroline KaufmannSent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:53 PMSubject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
I tried a whole arsenal of things last night to get Monkee to eat. I went shopping and tried to find as many of the suggested items as possible, but it was hard. He ate some raw buffalo meat from Whole Foods that the butcher gave me at no charge since I wanted such a tiny amount. He ate about a spoonful. That is the most he ate on his own. He did pick at some sardines, but it wasn't much. I syringe fed him some gravy I made from 2 types of cat food. I did get at least a tablespoon of Nutrical in him because if I put it on his nose, he will lick it off EVERY time. He did have a BM last night- it was small.
He got Nutrical in him this morning and he drank some gravy from a Whiskas pouch. He also drank some meal replacement formula for cats that I found at the pet store- but not a lot of it. His pupils look a little dilated to me.
As for his hydration, I think his usually pink nose looks a little white- as well as his gums. But color comes back to them if I press on his gums. They just seem to have more of white color though- less pink. His gums are not dry/tacky though- they are somewhat moist.
He's still moving around good and talking and wanting to do things- like sit out on the front porch. He purrs when I pet him. The hovering over the litter box and attempting to eat it has lessened.
My mom is brining me some larger syringes so I will at least have some bigger than a 1 ml syringe to feed him with.
I emailed an update to his Vet, Dr. Maier, but I haven't heard from her yet. I just called there and the receptionist said she's out of the office on Wed. afternoons.
I guess I am just worried because I am wondering if the blood transfusion he got exactly two weeks ago is wearing off and/or if he needs an appetite stimulant and/or if he is feeling bad. I just don't think he's one to truly show how bad he's feeling so I am just anxious about where we go from here?
-Caroline
From: "Susan Dubose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:21:09 -0500
Ask your vet for a 5cc syringe.They do make them bigger, of course, but I like the control of the 5cc.He should be getting @ least 30cc's of food TID.www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
"As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause,
Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
Trajan Tennent----- Original Message -----Caroline KaufmannSent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:44 PMSubject: Re: Appetite issues and Monkee update
We will try these suggestions. Thank you. I guess I will be shopping again after work! Dr. Maier said to start Monkee on the Nutrical, so my mom is picking that up for me today. I fed him "human" tuna and tuna water over the weekend from the can, but as of yesterday, he'd only eat one piece. Of course, he eats a ton of my broiled whitefish though! But I can't keep getting take-out fish for dinner every night for Monkee! I forgot that I had a few cans of AD from when Monkee's anemia first started. He only ate that when he was really really down and as soon as he started feeling better, he wouldn't eat even one bit of it. But since I have some cans already, we will try it again.
I did syringe feed him last night- but all I have is a 1 ml syringe, so it takes forever! I took advantage of the fact that he is sooooooooooooo good for pilling, etc. and tried that last night. I had been syringe feeding him his colostrum mixed with water since I couldn't get him to eat a whole meal, I didn't want to waste a colostrum pill by adding it to food he wouldn't eat. That way, I felt like I could make sure he got water too. But last night, I probably added too much water and it took about 10, 1 ml syringe-fulls to get all the colostrum in him! He was so good though! So then I did the same procedure to get some of the beef/chicken livers gravy I'd blended up in him.
We have tried hand-feeding and what my mom calls "community feeding"- where I sit on the ground with him and talk to him, hand him pieces and pet him- which he usually loves. But I tried that this morning and it's like he tries to "fake" eat by just licking some gravy just to get me off his back! Even in his weakened state he is still too smart for his own good!
The funniest thing about all this for me is that, since he won't eat a whole small can of food, I never give him one- usually just a half. The other half that Monkee never touched- I HATE wasting it and throwing it away. My neighborhood has these "neighborhood" strays (not feral, just friendly strays who've been taken care of by the neighborhood) that a bunch of us watch over, feed, water, etc. They have all been fixed by a lady up the street who started this whole street-cat thing. The issue regarding these cats though is a whole other can of worms that I am not ready to get into yet because I rent and worry about what will happen when I move, but for now, they are very well taken care of, safe and happy- even if they are outdoor cats (which I don't "believe" in). I have been feeding them for about a year since I moved in and figured out they were strays and there are two of the 6 cats that seem to "prefer" the food I give them so they are almost permanent fixtures on my front stoop now, with a few others who sometimes visit for food if they are extra hungry, but routinely come for the water that I change everyday. Anyway, instead of always just getting fed cheap 9 Lives dry food- which they love- these two now get Monkee's rejected premium food! They've been fed AD, Fancy Feast, and as of yesterday, the Wellness wet food! It drives my mom crazy, but I'd rather some cat (even a rag-a-muffin stray!) eat that food than just throw it away!
-Caroline
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