Caroline—what a dilemma! Luckily my other cats all love C/D, probably
because before that they were all eating vegetarian cat food until I
realized how horrible it was for them! It sounded great in the ads and the
testimonials, but not in real life. I was skeptical since cats are
obviously
meat-eaters, but thought I'd try it anyway. What a mistake! Glad to know
others have the gobble/vomit problem too! J Melissa
Good to know that the CD isn't as bad as the rest of the Science Diet!
Thanks Susan!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Caroline Kaufmann
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: To Melissa Re: Science Diet C/D
Subject: RE: To Melissa Re: Science Diet C/D
We (and more so, my mom) went through all of that! And there was plenty
of
vomiting by all, but I don't think there was ever one single reason for
that. Since we had 3 boys from the litter of 5, and the mother, they were
so used to communal feeding and the competition that came with it by the
time Peach developed his condition, it was very difficult to change the
feeding routine. I know that it was really hard on my mom and the cats,
but
she did it because the other cats wouldn't eat the C/D; but all Peach
wanted
to eat was the other cats' "junk food"- which would give him crystals in
his
urinary tract! It was sooooooooooooo stupid! I think through just doing
it
over and over again, Peach learned to be primarily a night-time eater in
his
basement. But every morning, when he knew the other cats were getting fed
the "good" food, he would fuss and carry-on in his basement and beg to
come
out. The other cats too had to learn to eat when they were given food-
first thing in the morning and at night- and they had to learn to adjust
their "grazing" into a shorter period of time- 1 to 2 hours- instead of
all
day. But, since there always seemed to be a lot of vomit with those cats,
maybe they never truly "learned"!!! What amazes me is thinking about the
time those cats spent trying to break into Peach's room and see what he
was
eating, and conversely, the time Peach spent trying to sneak some of the
left-over Whiskas...! I think that might be what kept them going all
those
years!
But no, I would not recommend this to anyone really. We just had a huge
dilemma with group feeding because we had a cat that would literally not
eat
anything but Whiskas and would never touch the Science Diets foods!
-Caroline
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From: "Melissa Lind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: To Melissa Re: Science Diet C/D
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:32:01 -0500
Thanks Caroline!
Yes, my vet advised that taking him off of it would be dangerous—I'd hate
to
put him through the pain again.
As for feeding separately—your mom is quite the trooper! My problem is
that
the cats are so used to free feeding, that if I only feed them at certain
times, then they gobble, gobble, gobble and inevitably vomit from their
haste and excitement—especially Bandit, the one who needs the CD. He is
constantly worried about food—we rescued him as a starving kitten with a
broken leg, maggots, etc., and possibly he still retains memories/fears of
starvation—so if he can see the bottom of the food dish, he becomes very
upset!
Another problem, Angel won't eat in front of us or when commanded or when
the other cats eat. I think she eats in the middle of the night. She
thinks
that being part of the crowd is beneath her. When they all frantically run
when they hear the food being dolled out, she just lays there looking
demure
and amused with their antics. So, feeding her with the others (apart from
the C/D cat) would be impossible too!
I suppose with enough dedication and training, I could figure something
out,
but is the CD really that bad for the other cats? The vet doesn't think
so,
but I know that the rest of you might have better options.
Melissa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Caroline Kaufmann
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: OT: To Melissa Re: Science Diet C/D
Melissa:
We had one cat (Peach) from the litter of cats that were born when I was
young that developed the same problem of the formation of crystals in his
urine. He honestly almost died from the condition because he was having
so
much trouble straining to urinate. I have always felt that Science Diet
C/D
literally saved his life. Once we started him on it, he never had the
problem again and his condition improved immediately. However, at the
time,
we had 4 other cats in the house and my mom did feed them separately. It
took a while to figure something out, but for a large chunk of Peach's
life
he spent his nights in our laundry room where he had all his own litter
box
and food and where he ate his food separately. He ended up loving it
because he felt like it was special treatment. I still can't believe the
lengths my mom went to to keep that cat on C/D and to prevent him from
ever
eating ANY of the other cats' "junk food"- although he tried, many times!
I'd have to check with my mom, but Peach lived to be 17-18? years old. He
never would have lived that long if there hadn't been Science Diet C/D.
In addition, one of the other cats, Peach's brother Rambo, was overweight
and spent at least 2 years on the Science Diet for overweight cats- not
the
"light," but the one for very overweight cats with a very restrictive
feeding amount regime. Again, my mom went to great lengths to feed Rambo
separately (in our bathroom!), while at the same time feeding Peach
separately on C/D, and the others....living it up eating junk food
(Whiskas-- we didn't know any better at the time!). Rambo eventually lost
all the weight, was able to get off the Science Diet, and lived a
wonderful,
healthy life to the age of 19 years-- the oldest living of this
litter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep in mind these were hand-raised, from the day they were born, house
cats, with no FeLV or anything like that. And this is before the
"organic"
pet foods were even made. While I am now and will probably forever feed
cats from here on out the premium organic foods, and I am a huge proponent
of organic diets, I can't say enough about some of the Prescription
Science
Diets- especially C/D.
If I were you, I would NOT take the cat that needs SD C/D off of that
until
you discuss it with your vet. As far as I am concerned, SD C/D needs to
be
treated as if it's an actual medicine you are feeding to your cat who is
prone to crystals.
I hope this helps!
-Caroline
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From: "Melissa Lind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:38:54 -0500
>Susan,
>
>I give SD C/D to all my cats since one of them needs it to prevent
>crystals
>forming in his urine. It is impossible to feed them separately. Since he
>started on it, he hasn't had any problems.
>
>What would you suggest I use instead? It's expensive food, and I know
>there
>has to be something better out there, but I absolutely don't have time
right
>now to cook for the cats. Well, maybe I have time, but I think the
>initial
>time and cost of getting everything they need together in one meal would
>be
>tough for me--lots of research needed on my part before I attempt cooking
>for them. But, I've had my doubts as to the quality of Science Diet. I
>just
>don't know what else to do to help Bandit's urine problem.
>
>Thanks! :)
>Melissa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Susan Dubose
>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:33 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
>
>Science Diet is nothing more than expensive junk food....
>
>Susan J. DuBose >^..^<
>www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
>www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
>www.shadowcats.net
> "As Cleopatra lay in
state,
> Faithful Bast at her
side did wait,
> Purring welcomes of
soft applause,
> Ever guarding with
sharpened claws."
> Trajan
Tennent
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:50 PM
>Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
>
>
>I meant to say "are the two most important factors"...lol. sorry. Also,
>what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can.
>Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate
>carnivores and do not process grains at all.
>
>http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html
>
>Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I
>did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova
>Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at
>about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc.
>
>:)
>Wendy
>
>"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
>change
>the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret
>Meade
>~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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