Megan, I'm in the same boat as you. I don't have an FeLV kitty anymore, but
I'm hanging around for a while to see if things improve. I'm glad you've
stuck around too. I hope you are coping with the loss of sweet Olive. I
forgot if you had any other kitties or had taken any in since then?

Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Heikkinen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: RE: offlist

Most people have left? That's pathetic. Everyone has their opinions, they
can 
be rude, they can get upset, blah blah blah. But aren't we all adults here? 
Hell, I'm probably the youngest person here, at twenty, and I'm finding this

all rather ridiculous.

Everyone here was really supportive when I was dealing with Olive's
sickness, 
but it kind of upsets me that even more people could have helped, that there

were people who used to be on here who might have had even better
suggestions 
than the great ones that I received. Yeah, there probably wasn't much more I

could've done for Olive, regardless of what people could tell me. But the 
thing is, it's SCARY that people have left over stupid bickering, when we
NEED 
those people to help us with our sick babies. The more people there are, the

more experience there is, and therefore more information is available. This 
list has made a difference for many people, but it could make a difference
for 
so many more. Honestly, the fact that people have left simply because they 
couldn't get along with a couple of other people disgusts me. I guess if 
someone REALLY needs to leave, that's one thing. But over some petty 
bickering? Come on.

I'm sure someone will find something to bitch at me for, but you know what?
I 
don't care. I'm mature enough to just ignore it. And it's funny, because I 
don't even have a FeLV+ kitty anymore, yet I'm still on here. Really, the 
arguing doesn't bother me too much, aside from filling up my inbox. What 
bothers me is that people are leaving because of it. THIS IS FOR OUR CATS. 
THIS IS TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. I'm just thankful that this list exists, and it

would sadden me to see it dwindle away.

-Megan

>===== Original Message From Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
>Nobody leave?  Most people have already left.
>
>It is really sad.
>
>On 9/26/07, Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Nobody leave!  This getting stupid!  Glenda, don't leave...
>> -Caroline
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:50:53 -0700
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Fwd: Re: offlist
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > --- glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:48:39 -0700 (PDT)
>> > > From: glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > Subject: Re: offlist
>> > > To: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >
>> > > Well, Tonya,
>> > > I guess I have been put in my place? ( I have been
>> > > judged by the best.) I humbly apologize to all here
>> > > and elsewhere, whom I have upset with my opinions,
>> > > and
>> > > infuriated with my stupidity. Having been so
>> > > enlightened by your revelations here, think it
>> > > best,
>> > > I exit this list. I certainly, being of "grade 1"
>> > > like
>> > > Susan, could not possible contribute anything to
>> > > this
>> > > list anyway. Between you and I Tonya, that is the
>> > > best compliment I have had for a long time,
>> > > classified
>> > > in Susan's league...whew!
>> > > Eventually, this list will be of one opinion and
>> > > all
>> > > will be able to get along ,because more than likely,
>> > > there will only be one or two left to share
>> > > information, give support, and so on.
>> > > Peace, love and joy to all,
>> > > Glenda in Nebraska
>> > > --- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Susan is in grade 1 with you. You are both new to
>> > > > the list and posting your ideas as gospel when
>> > > > others of us have been dealing with felv for
>> > > YEARS.
>> > > > It is very disruptive to the list. And I hate to
>> > > > say this because I see how what happened with your
>> > > > trapped cat being killed happened. But a lot of
>> > > > people left the list because of you taking that
>> > > cat
>> > > > to animal control where it was put down. People
>> > > who
>> > > > have been doing this for YEARS know you do NOT
>> > > take
>> > > > cats to animal shelters unless you WANT them put
>> > > > down. I defended you as a newbie to people who
>> > > have
>> > > > left the list, but many of them are still upset
>> > > > about what happened. They are upset that you
>> > > didn't
>> > > > know better. When you sound off so harshly to
>> > > > Sherry and others acting as an 'expert' it doesn't
>> > > > help.
>> > > > tonya
>> > > > t
>> > > >
>> > > > glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > So many of the people here put their heart and
>> > > > soul
>> > > > and every spare minute possible into helping and
>> > > > learning about cats/animals.
>> > > > There are certain basic rules of common sense that
>> > > > even I have learned in the last few months when it
>> > > > comes to dealing with these two diseases: FeLV and
>> > > > FIV.
>> > > > There are people here that have taught me a lot
>> > > and
>> > > > who I depend on to answer questions that I might
>> > > > have
>> > > > or that might come up. There are people here with
>> > > > wonderful hearts that are just here learning the
>> > > > basics. I sincerely care for them all. We should
>> > > > NEVER
>> > > > attack each other. WE ARE ALL ONE.
>> > > > If I were to tell you what grade I am in, as in,
>> > > > elementary school, as compared to Susan, for
>> > > > example,
>> > > > I'd say I'm a mere first grader and I'd imagine
>> > > > Susan
>> > > > might be in high school... light years ahead of
>> > > me,
>> > > > but here, we shall call it high school compared to
>> > > > first grade... high school for knowledge in the
>> > > > diseases we are dealing with and high school for
>> > > > experience dealing with animal rescues and
>> > > shelters
>> > > > and the different ways of how they do what they
>> > > do.
>> > > > I
>> > > > completely respect Susan's take on things and I
>> > > > trust
>> > > > her experience, admire her spirit...she says it
>> > > like
>> > > > it is. I flower things up , but it is all the
>> > > > same...no matter how it is said.
>> > > > It is important to remember, IT IS ALL FOR THE
>> > > > ANIMALS. WE ARE SECONDARY.
>> > > > If we could sit, as like on a Board of Directors
>> > > > meeting, we could discuss what would be best for
>> > > the
>> > > > animals and maybe compromise somehow and attempt
>> > > to
>> > > > see each other's points.
>> > > > I have tried to keep myself in check, but it has
>> > > > been
>> > > > difficult when I am seeing everything I have so
>> > > far
>> > > > learned here, being turned upside down by this
>> > > > rescue/shelter or that? I have so far dealt with a
>> > > > shelter that sent me a FeLV+ cat and butted heads
>> > > > with
>> > > > a shelter in Wisconsin with the everyone must be
>> > > > declawed thing going on... Right now the shelter
>> > > of
>> > > > discussion is where Sherry gives her heart and
>> > > soul.
>> > > > I
>> > > > try so hard to see all sides, but there are times
>> > > I
>> > > > just cannot and if you were to ask me, if after I
>> > > > had
>> > > > just won $300 million in the lottery, who I would
>> > > > want to organize and run my, big fancy shelter. IT
>> > > > WOULD HAVE TO BE SUSAN.
>> > > > That is all folks!
>> > > > Glenda
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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