Good idea. You would not forgive yourself if something happened and you didn't. If you have a holistic/alternative vet in the area you might consult them. If not, and if you would like, I have the website of one who will do telelphone consults. Carolyn has used her too. On Jun 23, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Lynne wrote:
> Thank you so much Gloria. I am going to print the article below and > take it > to our vet. I've decided to have her checked out thoroughly by our > vet > before having the spay. I realize the importance of having the > surgery. > I'm a huge advocate of sterilizing and feel a bit of a hipocrit for > not > getting this done, but I also will not risk her life if there is the > slightest chance of something happening to her. She is healthy, or > so she > was given a clean bill of health when we got her, but still I want her > examined first by our vet. > > Lynne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gloria Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:16 AM > Subject: Re: spaying - BE CAREFUL ABOUT PERSIANS! > > >> Just want to repeat this, folks - BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SPAYING >> PERSIANS! Small airways, more risk of death. >> As I understand this is a Persian! >> >> Check with the vet first - and check the vet out - make sure they've >> spayed Persians before, know what they're doing, >> will intubate, etc. Don't let just any vet spay a Persian. I lost a >> kitty this way. See the article below. >> >> Gloria >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - >> >> >> >> On Jun 22, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Gloria Lane wrote: >> >>> Does she have an outbreak of Herpes right now? If so, wait on the >>> spay because of that. Many cats have been exposed to and carry the >>> Herpes virus - but is she has an outbreak, that's different - you >>> might just want to get her on some Lysine , and make sure she's in >>> good shape before any surgery. >>> >>> And if she's Persian, I'd wait. If Persian, she probably also has >>> "Persian eyes", meaning some drainage and staining below her eyes >>> which is typical of the breed, because of the smallness in the flat >>> facial area. I've just gotten real cautious about Persians. >>> >>> I'd probably let her get a little older anyhow. Cats that have had >>> kittens get spayed all the time, that's not a concern. BUT Persian >>> cats require special attention re surgery. They have small airways, >>> and some people prefer intubating them for surgery rather than just >>> using anesthesia alone. When they're out or groggy from anesthesia, >>> the tissue in the throat can cover the airway and they can die if >>> they're not watched carefully, and seems like many vets/vet techs >>> don't know that. I've had that happen. >>> >>> Another thing is that Persians may have different sensitivities to >>> anesthesia than other cats, so make sure the vet is sensitive to >>> Persian issues. One link is here, with a quote: >>> >>> ================================== >>> http://www.vetinfo4cats.com/canesthesia.html >>> "Ketamine causes hypertension during anesthetic recovery and it is >>> possible that the detrimental effects attributed to ketamine may be >>> due primarily to cases of undiagnosed cardiomyopathy in cats >>> undergoing anesthetic procedures. These cats would be especially >>> sensitive to hypertension and the increase in blood pressure induced >>> by ketamine is supposed to be pretty significant in some cats. >>> If this theory is correct it may make sense that Persians are more >>> sensitive to ketamine than other cat breeds since cardiomyopathy is >>> supposed to be a problem in the breed. Another potential problem >>> with >>> Persians and ketamine is that many vets using ketamine anesthesia >>> (included me when procedures are short) do not routinely intubate >>> cats >>> to provide a patent airway since they are not anticipating having to >>> use gas anesthesia. In pets with short noses, both cats and dogs, >>> intubation during any anesthetic procedure is best since these pets >>> can develop airway obstructions much more easily than longer nosed >>> pets. I think almost all vets do intubate pets when they are doing >>> dental procedures other than very simple extractions, though." >>> >>> ================================== >>> >>> Hope this is helpful. >>> >>> Gloria >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Lynne wrote: >>> >>>> Here I go again, waffling about neutering my cat. I need some >>>> honest advice here. Don't just tell me what I want to hear but >>>> what >>>> I must hear. >>>> >>>> I haven't owned too many cats in my life, 3 to be exact because >>>> they >>>> all lived very long lives. Then came BooBoo and all the tragedy >>>> associated with Feline leukemia, FIP etc. I still say I shouldn't >>>> have neutered him (age 5) and that stress contributed to his very >>>> quick demise. My other cats have always been neutered before we >>>> got >>>> them (from the humane society.) Now we have Snowy, the 3 and a >>>> half >>>> year old rescued cat who was very ill with feline herpes virus. It >>>> caused some scarring in one eye and apparently it took 2 months >>>> in a >>>> foster home to get her eyes and respiratory tract infection >>>> treated. She is seemingly very healthy, the vet says she has a >>>> strong heart. What I did learn about her though was that she did >>>> have a litter of kittens at one point and they all died. I have >>>> read that it can be complicated to spay a cat that has had a litter >>>> and that is why it is best to do it at a young age. I have her >>>> scheduled to go in this Tuesday and I'm petrified. I would >>>> absolutely die if something were to happen to her. I worry about >>>> the stress and her history of Herpes virus. She's such a happy and >>>> loving little girl but becomes very aggitated over having her eyes >>>> cleaned daily and being brushed, necessary things for a persian. >>>> When we got her about two weeks later we discovered she had a very >>>> horrible ingrown nail and took her to the emergency vet to have it >>>> surgically removed. It was a horrible sight. She had to be put >>>> under she was so hysterical. The vet even told us we had a bad >>>> kitty because I guess she put a job on him. From what I can tell >>>> she >>>> has not gone into heat during the time we've owned her which is >>>> around 4 months now. She's an indoor cat but is allowed to go >>>> outside with us and Lenny for fresh air and nature. Neither cat is >>>> ever let outside without at least one of us in the yard with them >>>> and both stay very close. It is impossible for either one go get >>>> out of the back yard, but yes, it is possible for an agile male to >>>> find his way in. Like I mentioned, they both are supervised >>>> diligently and only let out for a short time. 90% of the time they >>>> are inside or in the screened patio. >>>> >>>> I know ultimately this is my decision but I would truly appreciate >>>> any thoughts you wonderful people might have on the subject. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> Lynne >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
