Tonya -- re the cosequin, we've been giving it to our senior guy Luc for
several months now -- we get the capsules and sprinkle it into his wet
food.  He goes for the juicy part first so we try to get the cosequin
powder mostly into the juice.  He sucks it right up. ;-)
Diane R.


[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda

Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value?  Just very low for a CRF
kitty with a Crea of 2.6.  You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's
web site.


SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration.  Weekly
fluids probably don't help much on that score.  Usually kitties are no
longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to
the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment
plan.  All of Bob's other values look good.  The best food for a CRF
kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat.

Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
        Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM
        Hey Belinda,
        This has been lost in cyberspace several times.  I'm hoping it
comes through with the new server.
        Bob's numbers:
        creatnine 2.5
        bun 16
        phosphorus 4.5
        potassium 4.1
        HCT 37.9
        Other numbers that were noted as high were:
        urea nitrogen 40
        cholesterol 269
        amylase 1440
        we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a
better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried
that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week.
        and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc
2.5 mg daily
        plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it
actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so
small on the capsules and i can't find the box.  i have a hard time
getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much
        how does all of this sound to you.
        I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the
vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about
        Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

                What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN, 
                Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the
important ones that 
                tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from
your vet, they 
                can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work
results, you paid for 
                them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can
tell you what my 
                vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has
his blood 
                pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for
getting high blood 
                pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness
if not caught 
                and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone
blind been put on 
                amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight.
The retinas 
                detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high
can vary for each 
                individual cat but you really don't want the blood
pressure higher than 
                170 or 180 at the vets.
                Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having
the episode 
                that I took him in for right away, thankfully his
retinas never detached 
                but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching
and he kind of 
                looked spacey and fell over.
                Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get
                happiness is being owned by cats ...
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