thank you Jenny.  not even my vet explained it this wel to me.  dorlis
---- wrote: 
> Steven,
> It is a difficult diagnosis to hear, so first, I am sorry.  
> Second, Felv+ is not an immediate death sentence for all felines in a 
> household.  I agree with what has already been said, in that separating him 
> may only cause stress, and this is a huge factor for felv+ cats.  It can push 
> them over the edge.  
> There is a great fear among vets with felv+ cats and often times they 
> recommend euthanasia or at least strict separation.  I think this is 
> unfortunate, but because of the unpredictable nature of disease transmission; 
> development, or lack of such development, of immunity; disease carrier state; 
> and progression of disease, this is often what vets fall back on.  In any 
> event they almost always adovcate separation, but after a long history of 
> prolonged exposure, it may be a mute point.  
> Some vets believe transmission can occur at any time despite having been 
> exposed to it in the past.  In other words just because a cat has been 
> exposed to the virus and fought it off, it they are exposed again they may 
> acquire the disease, i.e. there is no lifetime immunity. It is a great source 
> of debate, and the knowledge simply isn't there.  Ultimately, it is a 
> decision only you can make.  Certainly people in this group have had good 
> success with intermingling.  I would recommend vaccinating any negative cats 
> if you do comingle them.  Do not, however, vaccinate a positive cat
> Third, felv is a virus that gets inside the cells responsible for a cat's 
> immune response - white blood cells, including lymphocyts and macrophages.  
> The virus actually implants its DNA into your cat's cells DNA and uses your 
> cats cells to replicate itself.  Because it is living inside of and playing 
> with the DNA of your cats cells, these cells no longer function properly and 
> can start to multiply out of control.  This is why they develop into 
> lymphomas - uncontrolled replication of lymphocytes.
> Additionally, your cats immune cells work to keep other cancers from forming 
> - they actually kill other cells that start replicating out of control.  In 
> felv+ cats the immune cells are not working properly and can't kill those 
> other out of control cells.  This can lead to increased risk of other types 
> of cancers as well.  
> Finally, because your cats immune cells are also responsible for fighting off 
> infections and they are not working properly, your cat is at an increased 
> risk of developing infections.  Often it is either these infections (or their 
> sequelae) or the cancers that act as the cause of death in felv+ cats.
> So armed with this knowledge, it is understandable why everyone here strongly 
> suggests decreasing stress (as increased stress often leads to decreased 
> immune response), giving an excellent diet, give what can be given to 
> strengthen the immune system, treat infections as necessary and give as much 
> supportive care as possible.  Since there is currently no cure for felv, 
> supportive care and treatment of infections and secondary cancers (including 
> lymphomas or sarcomas - another form of cancer) are currently our only 
> options.  This is perhaps another reason why vets are so fearful of this 
> disease.
> There are many here that advocate different medications that help boost the 
> immune system.  Immulan and Acemannan are two such meds that have been 
> discussed with this groups.  There are others.
> Fourth, with respect to the lung mass.  It is likely that it is a lymphoma or 
> lymphosarcoma, but it generally helps to get a diagnosis first.  There are 
> different types of lymphomas that respond differently to chemotherapeutic 
> regimens.  In general a sample of the mass is taken first to be evaluated by 
> pathology for a diagnosis.  Once diagnosed treatment options can be 
> discussed.  Generally, any cancer treated earlier, rather than later, has a 
> much better chance of a good outcome.  
> There are a lot of questions you will likely be faced with concerning this 
> situation.  I am constantly amazed at the sincerity, support, and willingness 
> to share that this group provides.  If you need any help on this journey, 
> this group is certainly one to rely on.  Good luck and God bless.
> Jenny 
> ---- wrote: 
> > Hello everyone,
> >  
> > My name is Steven with a long history of feline stewardship; will not say  
> > owner because who owns who is always in question! :) Sorry for a long  
> > post.  I 
> > am confused and wanting to make sure I get the most efficient and  best 
> > treatment possible for a recent diagnosis:
> >  
> > I have 6 felines in my household:
> > Rosie-12 year old female brown tabby
> > Samauri a/k/a Sammy- 9 year old male blonde tabby
> > Olivander- 7 year old male Maine Coon
> > Maggie- 3 year old female blonde and white tabby
> > Squeaky-2 year old female tuxedo
> > Fuzzy-2 year old male long haired tuxedo and brother of Squeaky
> >  
> > My 9 year old Samauri just diagnosed yesterday with FELV and x-rays show  
> > moderate cancer mass in his chest cavity. His comprehensive blood work 
> > shows all  
> > is normal and in range so I am confused.  He eats, drinks, sleeps, plays  
> > and 
> > behaves normally as he always has, would not know he was sick at all.   All 
> > other felines being tested on Monday 3/23 and Samauri is currently  
> > "quarantined" in 1 large bedroom and we are all not happy about this.  Is  
> > the cancer 
> > which my vet says is of the lymphoma type caused by the FELV virus as  a 
> > "secondary disease" or is it possible the cancer is in addition to the FELV 
> >  positive 
> > status and the virus is not causing havoc yet?  Would the blood  work be 
> > "normal" or are "we" just lucky so far?  Samauri has been going to  the vet 
> > lately 
> > for a cronic upper respiratory infection where his eyes tear  because the 
> > nasal passages were clogged. Medication clears it up as it has  occurred 
> > 2-3x per 
> > year for the past several years.   
> >  
> > I am seeing a specialist on Tuesday for the cancer that shows up on the  
> > x-rays.  I imagine this is what I fight and do other things to ensure his  
> > immune 
> > system stays as healthy as possible?  My vet has given me liquid  Immuno 
> > Support Vitamins that contains Lysine, Larch Arabinogalactan, Reishi  
> > Mushroom and 
> > Lutein. He wants the specialist to come up with a cancer fighting  
> > chemotherapy protocol.
> >  
> > Also, I have read posts regarding separating or not  separating positive 
> > and 
> > negative felines, and my vet actually is already  assuming the other cats 
> > to 
> > be tested will test positive.  Should he be  making that assumption?   I am 
> > fairly convinced right now that I could  let all kitties roam the house 
> > under 
> > certain managed conditions relating to  shared bowls, etc.  
> >  
> > Am I even close to being on the right track here?  I have supported  CRF 
> > and 
> > Cardiomyopathy felines at home in the past but this is all new to me  
> > regarding FELV status and cancer.
> >  
> > Thank you to everyone for bearing with me
> >  
> > God Bless all our felines!
> >  
> > Steven
> > New York
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> > or 
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