thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in.
yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago.  She gave 
the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again.  The kitty 
doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why I 
really want to assess the situation.  Now she isn't sure about the size of the 
space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got 
misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet 
several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the 
kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood 
sugar.  It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; I 
know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here.  
--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz <> wrote:

From: Laurieskatz <>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM

Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never
heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed
to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my
suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help
someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go
over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't
work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The
"masturbation" might be another bodily issue or infection. It
sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if
the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go
to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate.
Please go get him and let us know what you find out. 

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them
of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces
of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative
has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV.  She can't take him because of
the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch.
 We've had a few conversations.  I have been told the following: the kitty
hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been
very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to
me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and
never attacks the other cats.  The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in
supposed perfect health.  There's never been an IFA or Western Blot.  
I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their
health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could
certainly use their vet.  She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and
didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today
she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission
to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. 
It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there.

When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like
carriers and might need a shot to be sedated.  That wasn't mentioned the
first few conversations.
Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me.  I know this person is
overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT.  I
am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but
why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an
adoption?  She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't
know about doing this.
I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical
conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need
to see what's going on.  I got the impression there was a problem with the
vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into
rescue have a vet or two they know and, what is the real story?
 How can I best help...
Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied

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