Thanks, Heather.  I think your gut is pretty much on target.  this kitty needs 
help and maybe I can network to get him some help if she refuses mine.  I also 
noticed she expressed interest at another cat I mentioned seeing - she didn't 
say she'd adopt him but that she was thinking about him and 
'wondering.... '  This concerned me - if she's trying to place so many cats, 
she's considering to adopt herself?  The word horder crossed my mind, although 
she claims to have a managable amount at her home.  she mentioned someone else 
is trying to get her to take a cat and she 'didn't know'.  Thanks again, we'll 
see how it goes!!
--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Heather Wienker <> wrote:

From: Heather Wienker <>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
To: "" <>
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 10:58 PM

I will write more when I can get to a computer but my gut (from a distance 
knowing far less than you so perhaps not entitled to a 'gut' on this:) is that 
yes, this woman has issues (or sometimes 'normal' people the issue is that they 
are too preoccupied with their own lives) and the cat needs help which will 
likely require someone just taking the cat asap.  I totally understand you may 
not be able to do that, sadly even many rescue people don't understand the 
importance of an IFA or what giving a home to and felv cat really entails. And 
'normal' people seeking help for a cat often aren't willing to do much and will 
make every excuse in the world why they can't.  Or perhaps she really is just 
kind of nuts, that is quite possible. Poor kitty:(

Thank you for caring enough to explore further. I've also seen rescue people 
say 'somethings not right--I'm out of this one", but those are likely often 
some of the situations where the animal really needs help. I may be way wrong 
though!  It is so hard to guess what the heck is up with people much of the 
time but getting away from crazy people/bad situations often seems to help the 
cats who the people claim are the ones with the problem (and they are, due to 
the people and all they've been through).

Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee <> wrote:

> thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in.
> yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago.  She 
> gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again.  The 
> kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why 
> I really want to assess the situation.  Now she isn't sure about the size of 
> the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got 
> misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet 
> several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the 
> kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood 
> sugar.  It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; 
> I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here.
> --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz <> wrote:
> From: Laurieskatz <>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
> To:
> Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM
> Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never
> heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed
> to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my
> suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help
> someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go
> over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't
> work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The
> "masturbation" might be another bodily issue or infection. It
> sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if
> the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go
> to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate.
> Please go get him and let us know what you find out.
> L
> "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
> untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them
> of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
> yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your
> greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces
> of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
> us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM
> To:
> Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
> An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative
> has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV.  She can't take him because of
> the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch.
>  We've had a few conversations.  I have been told the following: the kitty
> hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been
> very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to
> me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and
> never attacks the other cats.  The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in
> supposed perfect health.  There's never been an IFA or Western Blot.
> I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their
> health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could
> certainly use their vet.  She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and
> didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today
> she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission
> to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'.
> It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there.
> When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like
> carriers and might need a shot to be sedated.  That wasn't mentioned the
> first few conversations.
> Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me.  I know this person is
> overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT.  I
> am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but
> why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an
> adoption?  She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't
> know about doing this.
> I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical
> conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need
> to see what's going on.  I got the impression there was a problem with the
> vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into
> rescue have a vet or two they know and, what is the real story?
>  How can I best help...
> Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied
> experience.
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